Commons:Deletion requests/Template:LYWOIA

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Template:LYWOIA

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The {{GWOIA}} legislative yuan version has an additional term that "The information on this website (excluding the pictures in the "Congress Art Exhibition") may be reproduced for personal or family non-profit purposes". However, these restrictions are incompatible with license policy of Commons. Please also refer to COM:Undeletion_requests/Archive/2022-07#File:第八屆立法委員謝國樑.jpg. Larryasou (talk) 05:27, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The additional statement are not incompatible with other parts of GWOIA. It just specially points out that one may reproduce the information for non-profit purposes, but did not prohibit one from reproducing the information for commercial purposes. The other parts of GWOIA, which are compatible with the license policy of Commons, are still effective, or this entire page would be useless. The purpose of that statement obviously, is to exclude the pictures in the "Congress Art Exhibition" from the scope of application, and should not be considered as hard modification of GWOIA itself. —— Eric Liu（Talk） 07:08, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Seems to be another problem accounted via {{FoP-Taiwan}} issues, which have some terms that can lead some community members to believe its NC feature. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:40, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Those were totally different issues. —— Eric Liu（Talk） 13:28, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We should not adopt interpretation e contrario simply by looking at the meaning of point 4 of "二、相關事項說明" (II. Miscellaneous), but should acknowledge the terms of the 立法院網站資料開放宣告 (Legislative Yuan Website Open Information Announcement, LYWOIA) as a whole. In particular, we should explore the purpose of the overall statement. Apart from the brackets, the provision is simply a reminder. First of all, "一、授權方式與範圍" (I. License Grant and Scope) clearly states that "為利各界廣為利用網站資料，立法院全球資訊網（以下簡稱本網站）網站上刊載之所有資料與素材，其得受著作權保護之範圍，以無償、非專屬，得再授權之方式提供公眾使用，使用者得不限時間及地域，重製、改作、編輯、公開傳輸或為其他方式之利用，開發各種產品或服務...。然使用時，應註明出處。" (To facilitate the widely diverse utilization of the website data, all of data and materials on the Legislative Yuan's website, which are deemed as protected under copyrights and published publicly, are provided in a free of charge, non-exclusive, and sublicensable method for the public. The users are granted a perpetual, worldwide, license to the data and materials for reproducing, adapting, compiling, publicly transmitting, or applying it on other methods, and as well as developing various products or services based on it... However, the attribution shall be provided in the further application.) In fact, this license is more lenient than the CC license, which is mentioned in the legal terms of CC BY/BY-SA that it cannot be sublicensed. This part means that as long as the source is indicated, commercial reproduction is also allowed, which is equivalent to the license requirement of the Attribution template for shared resources. Therefore, we cannot say that because the Legislative Yuan specifically reminds individuals or families that non-commercial reproduction is allowed, it is interpreted as "non-individuals and non-families, or non-commercial, are not allowed to reproduce", because if this is interpreted, it does contradict the provisions of "I." and is obviously not the original intent of the Taiwanese government to promote open licensing. 2. I guess that "二、3." (II.3) mentions that "部份的影音、圖像、樂譜、專人專案撰文或其他著作，經機關特別聲明須經同意方可使用者。" (Part of the videos, photos, sheet music, project outcomes, special topics, or other works by named authors, respectively marked as additional approval required for the utilization by the entity.), so the role of the brackets is to refer to the special declaration here, that is, to exclude the pages of the Congress Art Exhibition from the scope of LYWOIA "一" (I). S099001 (talk) 00:37, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've called and asked the Legislative Yuan. They say roughly the same thing as Eric. S099001 (talk) 07:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds reasonable to me. @Elcobbola: Any other concerns or comments？--Larryasou (talk) 15:18, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete Per COM:PCP? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly not in the scope of that. —— Eric Liu（Talk） 05:44, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Ericliu1912 The problem is that a license must allow commercial reuse to be used on Commons, if this license doesn't allow so, we have to deny further usages (at least purely usages) here. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:06, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As S099001 and I explained, it is impossible for the additional statement to modify and invalidate the original context of the entire GWOIA, which is compatible with the license policy of Commons. At least that would definitely not be the intent of the government. Thus, I don't see COM:PCP being applicable here. —— Eric Liu（Talk） 12:43, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 I withdraw my nomination I've reveived an email response from the website saying that the purpose of the clause is to exclude the pictures in the "Congress Art Exhibition" rather than limit the scope of application.--Larryasou (talk) 12:13, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Withdrawn. —holly {chat} 20:01, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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