Commons:Deletion requests/Template:EKCH warning
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Thousands of airports have policies like this. It is not the responsibility of Wikimedia Commons to warn about all the worldwide legislation regarding photography. If it is, a lot of templates are missing! See also: Commons:Village_pump#Legal_warnings --Ysangkok (talk) 11:36, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Delete in the spirit of en:Wikipedia:No disclaimers in articles. Multichill (talk) 12:21, 31 January 2011 (UTC)- weak delete as useless. There are three instances that may be of real concern: personality rights, freedom of (interior) panorama, police terrorism. As for the first two - commons already has some mechanisms in place. They don't work well, and this template isn't any better. As for the third one, if a passer-by can see something, it's as good as a photograph. Concealment takes more than banning casual snapshots. P.S. Two thirds of my own uploads can be decorated with a similar notice (it's a police state, not Denmark). But will it make any sense? NVO (talk) 17:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Delete I now have no objections for the deletion of this. --Henrik (heb: Talk · Contributions · E-mail) 13:09, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Comment I don't see where they "forbid". I don't see any wording like "you must" or "compulsory" in http://www.cph.dk/CPH/UK/Newsroom/Who+What+and+Where/Access+and+permits/Non+press+related+filming+and+photography.htm . It tells what rules apply to you if you request a permission. It does not tell what rules apply if you don't. "No more than five persons are allowed access without special permission" seeems to say that it is OK if you are less than 5 people. I am listing this request in today's log. Teofilo (talk) 17:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- No it says that you need special permission to be more than five - not that you don't need a permission if you are less. I belive that the five person-rule is that you need to be allowed for unaccompanied access for person number six and onwards. I have no specific knowledge of this as this wasn't debated when I had "my little experience" with airport security. --Henrik (heb: Talk · Contributions · E-mail) 18:09, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- As a traveller with an airplane ticket you have the permission to enter the airport. Any additional permission added to the usual airplane ticket permission becomes special. Taking pictures is a specific action that can be distinguished from the usual passenger action (such as sitting, waiting, having a drink at the bar, and shopping at the duty free shop). Perhaps you are right, but what they say is not so clear. Teofilo (talk) 19:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- Putting airplane ticket as an equal to permission could be it - we are in over my head now. My basic intent was just to ensure, that other people travelling through Copenhagen Airport doesn't end up in the same situation as I ended up in, and that good faith users of photos from Copenhagen Airport, doesn't suddenly end up in a crappy situation. --Henrik (heb: Talk · Contributions · E-mail) 07:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Can you explain what happened to you ? Teofilo (talk) 11:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sure. On my way out of the airport I snapped some photos at various places, until I got stopped by airport security, who inquired to the nature of my photography, the purpose with it, if I had permission and if there where any employees of the airport or companies working at the airport on the photos. I then showed them my photos (there where none of the latter as my photography was mainly signs) and they then explained briefly the rules to me (no photography without permission, that photography of some areas (not specified by them though) also requires security clearance by the police and/or the Danish Customs Service and that they wouldn't press the issue further if my photos were only for personal use). After that I left the airport without taking any further photos, I believe under their constant eyes. --Henrik (heb: Talk · Contributions · E-mail) 14:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- If you uploaded the pictures on Commons and you now want to have the pictures deleted, I agree that your pictures can be deleted so that you don't have troubles. You might be interested in reading Matthew B. Harrison, The Legalities of urban exploration photos, photosandthelaw.com, 2009 (about the USA, not about Danemark, unfortunately). Teofilo (talk) 15:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sure. On my way out of the airport I snapped some photos at various places, until I got stopped by airport security, who inquired to the nature of my photography, the purpose with it, if I had permission and if there where any employees of the airport or companies working at the airport on the photos. I then showed them my photos (there where none of the latter as my photography was mainly signs) and they then explained briefly the rules to me (no photography without permission, that photography of some areas (not specified by them though) also requires security clearance by the police and/or the Danish Customs Service and that they wouldn't press the issue further if my photos were only for personal use). After that I left the airport without taking any further photos, I believe under their constant eyes. --Henrik (heb: Talk · Contributions · E-mail) 14:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Can you explain what happened to you ? Teofilo (talk) 11:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Putting airplane ticket as an equal to permission could be it - we are in over my head now. My basic intent was just to ensure, that other people travelling through Copenhagen Airport doesn't end up in the same situation as I ended up in, and that good faith users of photos from Copenhagen Airport, doesn't suddenly end up in a crappy situation. --Henrik (heb: Talk · Contributions · E-mail) 07:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- As a traveller with an airplane ticket you have the permission to enter the airport. Any additional permission added to the usual airplane ticket permission becomes special. Taking pictures is a specific action that can be distinguished from the usual passenger action (such as sitting, waiting, having a drink at the bar, and shopping at the duty free shop). Perhaps you are right, but what they say is not so clear. Teofilo (talk) 19:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- No it says that you need special permission to be more than five - not that you don't need a permission if you are less. I belive that the five person-rule is that you need to be allowed for unaccompanied access for person number six and onwards. I have no specific knowledge of this as this wasn't debated when I had "my little experience" with airport security. --Henrik (heb: Talk · Contributions · E-mail) 18:09, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jcb (talk) 17:11, 11 March 2011 (UTC)