Commons:Deletion requests/Rozhin

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Rozhin

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 Keep There is a lot more in this foto than just the Stadium. Palmerston (talk) 10:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To look at the title of the photo, the description, and the category, is really helpful to understand the main content. --Fernrohr (talk) 11:36, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


These are images of architecturial works of Igor Rozhin, who died in 2005 ([1]). There is no FOP in Russia ([2]), and Russian law is applied retroactively to Soviet works ([3]). Should be Category "Undelete in 2076/80" --Fernrohr (talk) 22:09, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep. As NVO wrote on Fernrohr's talk page: A policy is in place but there's no commitment. None. [...] practically anything built in the Union fails COM:FOP in this or that way. It's a five-digit mass of photos. Current "consensus" is to disregard COM:FOP in this case: no one really cares about legalese crap fabricated in Russia or North Korea. [...] Can this simple statement lead to a summary deletion of all photography in the Union-related categories? (accentuation by me) - yes, it can, if you go ahead deleting stuff like this, resulting in Wikimedia Commons becoming virtually useless for illustrating articles about Russia and/or or the Soviet Union (which occupied 1/6 of the Earth's land area). Change this policy right now because of common sense and the nullo actore, nullus iudex principle, and stop deletions at least until this point is clarified! And BTW, we do not need administrators implementing "commons policies" acting like robots not considering any issues around, like the mentioned above... --SibFreak (talk) 07:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I consider the argument "deletion is inconvenient and nobody will sue WMF based on this legalese crap, so let's ignore it" particularly inadequate. Nothing needs to be clarified, it is all pretty clear. Dura lex, sed lex, since you like Latin. --Fernrohr (talk) 08:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete How seriously we take North Korean (or indeed Chinese) copyright law tends not to matter, given that a citizen is breaking the law if they attempt to connect to the world wide web. By contrast, if we knowingly break Russian copyright law, we are knowingly endangering Wikimedia in Russia. There needs to be a more compelling reason than that. WFCforLife (talk) 19:00, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • NVO and SibFreak's arguments cannot be accepted. Russia is not the only country that doesn't recognize FOP. We've taken down pictures of recent architecture and sculpture from France, Belgium or Italy as well, just to name a few. Russia has every right not to acknowledge FOP, even if we regret it deeply. I will delete all pictures that don't respect COM:FOP. If anyone here belongs to a WP that can accept these pictures, please transfer them there. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 10:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete Sadly. No FoP in Russia. Hekerui (talk) 19:52, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete Per nom. Too bad. -Gump Stump (talk) 17:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, no freedom of panorama in the former Soviet Union. Kept two of the stadium and one of the subway that did not contain anything copyrightable. Kameraad Pjotr 21:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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