Commons:Deletion requests/Pictures of the Louvre Pyramid
Pictures of the Louvre Pyramid
[edit]The Louvre pyramid is a copyrighted artwork by I.M. Pei (still alive). France has no freedom of panorama. However, French jurisprudence traditionally allows the representation of a copyrighted artwork if it is accessory compared to the main represented subject. For instance, a picture representing a Paris street with the en:Tour Montparnasse in the background was judged to be OK.
The problem here is to determine whether the pictures in category:Louvre Pyramid pass this test or not. Please note that many filenames actually mention the Pyramid. Also, I have excepted from this deletion request panorama pictures such as File:Louvre Museum - entrance.jpg or File:Louvre Paris Panorama.JPG. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 19:34, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Traduction en français : la pyramide du Louvre est une œuvre d'I. M. Pei, qui est encore en vie ; elle est donc protégée par le droit d'auteur. La France ne reconnaît pas la liberté de panorama, mais la jurisprudence admet la représentation d'une œuvre protégée quand celle-ci est accessoire au sujet représenté. Par exemple, les tribunaux ont considéré comme acceptable une photo représentant la rue de Rennes, à Paris, avec la tour Montparnasse dans le fond. La question ici est de savoir si ces photos entrent dans ce cadre ou non. On peut remarquer qu'un certain nombre des photos présentées ici comportent la mention « pyramide du Louvre » dans leur titre. Par ailleurs, j'ai ignoré les photos panoramiques comme File:Louvre Museum - entrance.jpg ou File:Louvre Paris Panorama.JPG.
My two photographs document an ongoing street protest, not the Pyramid, which just happens to be there. In Paris, many public events take place in front of notable buildings, some of them modern and subject to architect's authorship. Refraining from reporting on them would create a chilling effect on free speech. David.Monniaux (talk) 18:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Agree with David for the first two pictures. But what about the pyramid's interior (File:Louvre-Pyramide-Interieur.jpg) ? I don't feel this picture gives a view of Pei's work : the truss structure, as seen from the interior with a partial view, may be from numerous other architectural structures, not specificaly Pei's. This is perhaps the staircase wich is a copyrighted work ? This picture should be on a separate deletion request. --Jean-Christophe BENOIST (talk) 12:19, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
File:Louvre Pyramide .JPG Even thou the title of the Picture says it, this Picture shows an evening scene of the frensh national day on the place in Front of the Louvre. The Pyramid in only seen in part and there are several other topics on the Picture. Perhaps the Picture should be renaimed f.e. "Evening July the 14th in Front of Louvre"--WerWil (talk) 18:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
File:Louvre France.jpg Keep, in my opinion the museum is the main subject on the photo here. There was a similar case under these circumstances. Turns out someone tried to sue postcard retailers over similar thing and were not successful (something like that, I didn't read into it much). Jolly Janner (talk) 00:49, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Some files of this set have already been deleted by Pymouss and just five images are left. In concur with David.Monniaux that the main subject for File:Dsc07964.jpg and File:Dsc07965.jpg are the march against digital rights management and that the pyramid could not be avoided in the photograph. Similarly, File:Parisienne2002-1.jpg focuses on the participants of La Parisienne. In the two remaining cases, File:Louvre 08.jpg and File:Louvre France.jpg I see the focus on the Louvre. Hence, I have decided to keep these five images. --AFBorchert (talk) 00:18, 2 January 2010 (UTC)