Commons:Deletion requests/Objects with design by Corneille
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com:DW of on free content. The design is certainly artistic and creative and not com:DM.
- File:Three cups decorated by Corneille 3.jpg
- File:Five small saucers decorated by Corneille.jpg
- File:Three cups decorated by Corneille underside.jpg
- File:Three cups decorated by Corneille 2.jpg
- File:Three cups decorated by Corneille 1.jpg
Natuur12 (talk) 20:49, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- The 3D objects photographed here are intended for daily use and therefore their design is not copyrightable. This according to the text on com:DW, section Isn't every product copyrighted by someone? What about cars? Or kitchen chairs? My computer case?. Thousands of these objects have been sold in The Netherlands for low prices, so these mugs and saucers are not intended as art objects, but as utility objects for daily use (as a matter of fact I do use them daily). The images should therefore not be deleted imho. Elly (talk) 08:38, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- While your arguments make sense for regular prints per the same logic as under "Ets-Hokin v. Skyy Spirits, Inc." your arguments are beside the point in this case. The cup isn't copyrighted but the print is. The entire cup is covered by a printing that would classify as a work of art. They are desiged by the famous artist Corneille according to the file discription who died in 2010. Of course the print is a reproduction but that doesn't change its copyright status. Itis still a derivative of a work of a work of art produced by a famous painter. Chairs can be copyrighted btw. Just like cups, glasses and other stuff you can use in daily life. Just not every object is. Natuur12 (talk) 10:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- I was just citing the official guideline which you referred to and saw an exemption for objects for daily use. I do not see new arguments in your text. Please leave this case until another sysop makes a decision. Elly (talk) 12:43, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- I am trying to explain that there is a difference between just an every day object and an object containing a print of a copyrighted artwork and that you misinterperted Commons policy. The same guideline also states It is possible for utilitarian objects to be copyrightable (for example, consider an alarm clock in the shape of a cartoon character), but there is no clear line between works which are copyrightable and objects which are not etc etc. Just like everything in copyright law it is not just black and white. See also Commons:Copyright_rules_by_subject_matter#Utility_objects. Last paragraph of the linked section. And no I wont stop motivating why those files are against Commons policy. Natuur12 (talk) 13:52, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- I was just citing the official guideline which you referred to and saw an exemption for objects for daily use. I do not see new arguments in your text. Please leave this case until another sysop makes a decision. Elly (talk) 12:43, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- While your arguments make sense for regular prints per the same logic as under "Ets-Hokin v. Skyy Spirits, Inc." your arguments are beside the point in this case. The cup isn't copyrighted but the print is. The entire cup is covered by a printing that would classify as a work of art. They are desiged by the famous artist Corneille according to the file discription who died in 2010. Of course the print is a reproduction but that doesn't change its copyright status. Itis still a derivative of a work of a work of art produced by a famous painter. Chairs can be copyrighted btw. Just like cups, glasses and other stuff you can use in daily life. Just not every object is. Natuur12 (talk) 10:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Delete The design on these cups is separable from the utilitarian nation of the cup and is thus copyrightable.--Prosfilaes (talk) 08:31, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: Steinsplitter (talk) 14:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)