Commons:Deletion requests/OTRS Ticket: 2007010510008334

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OTRS Ticket: 2007010510008334

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Image of works from some Museums in Florence to be deleted:--Cruccone 14:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And why exactly should these images be deleted? Is the uploader not the author? --88.134.44.28 03:12, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The motivation is the OTRS ticket, i.e. we have been requested to delete all the images from the national museums of Florence. This is only the beginning. --Cruccone 23:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By whom? By the museums? If so, this deletion request is misplaced. Contact Brad Patrick about it. I don't think the museums have any copyright on these old reliquia etc. What reason for deleting these images is given in the OTRS ticket? If the museums are trying to enforce their house rules, which probably do not allow photography: AFAIK our usual position is that we don't honor their house rules. If someone breaks their house rules and does take photos, that's his or her risk to take. WP as a tertiary publisher of such images cannot be held liable for a break of some house rules committed by a third party, i.e. the photographer. Thus, I would delete these images only if the Foundation's legal counsel (that's Brad) concurs that the images should be removed. Lupo 09:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am the uploader of those files, I will prefer them to be deleted if the uploading was not legal. I would like to be informed about how the question goes on. I really apologize, I'm very sad for causing this. Thanks for understanding. --Sailko 10:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1st sorry for my bad english. I'm not a lawyer, but the problem seem to be a recent (2004) italian law [1] that give to "Ministero dei Beni culturali" the decision about the right to reproduce all the artistic, archeologic, architectural, etc. place&thing in Italy, whatever is their age. If the reproduction (photo, video, digital photo) are for pesonal use (and relesing it with a "free" license obviously isn't personal use) and the Ministero (or a local section) don't sell the exclusive right of reproduction to some company, a person can take photo, etc. without asking for permission. In all other case (ie photo for commercial use) a permission must be given preventively, ad the "ministero dei Beni culturali" or local section or the company that buy the right of reproduction, and these organization decide every time if give or refus this permission, and how much this permission cost (from 0 to infinite). If the permission is given, per person must give to the Ministero a "printing" of the image. --Yoggysot 23:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is a bad place to discuss this problem. If you are correct, then the images are obvious copyright violations and can be speedy deleted. That's no problem. But the important question is whether you are correct. I would like opinions from people who know something about Italian copyright law, such as it:Utente:Senpai.
However, to be on the safe side, I'll delete the images first of all. Better safe than sorry.
Fred Chess 23:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

done for the moment --ALE! ¿…? 12:25, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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