Commons:Deletion requests/Nobel Prize and all medal photos within
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Nobel Prize and all medal photos within
[edit]All three images are photos of the medal and are marked as PD-self/PD-user. The photos themselves might be PD, but their subject is not; they are derivative works of a copyrighted work, therefore copyvios. The medal is a copyrighted artistic work by the Swedish sculptor and engraver Erik Lindberg (1873–1966) [1]. See the Copyright and Trademark information:
Permission in writing is required for:
Photos or Images of the Nobel Prize Medal
Permission to use an image or a photo of a Nobel Prize medal is only granted if the image is going to be used as an illustration to an editorial text about Alfred Nobel, the Nobel Prize or a Nobel Laureate.
An image of the Nobel Prize medal may, however, not be used on the cover of books, booklets or other printed matter, on posters, in exhibitions etc., nor for publicity or commercial purposes.
To apply for a permit, e-mail info@nobel.se.
If permission is granted, ”®© The Nobel Foundation ” must be indicated.
I considered speedy deleting them as copyvios, or tagging as copyvios, but as they are used many times on many projects, I'd like to be sure I am not mistaken. (Note that Image:NobelPrizeMedal.jpg has already been tagged as nosource for the very same reason.)
--Mormegil 10:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
delete --Historiograf 14:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Delete --Rtc 20:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Just to make it clear - I don't think that Nobel Prize is copyrighted - there is no such information on the Nobel Foundation website and it's quite unlikely (XIX/XX centrury is not XX/XXI century; in 1901 artists rather didn't moved their copyrights to institutions, and I guess copyrigths simply inspired). The case is we have a trademark which is to some extent protected. aegis maelstrom δ 08:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- Self edit - wrong, I've just learned the creator of "Swedish Medals" lived to 1966. So it's a question of rights of his family rather than of the Foundation. Well, one way is to track his family and ask if it were possible to issue at least small file (too small to use in print but good enough for Internet) on FOSS licences... the same with Foundation, probably. aegis maelstrom δ 08:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- löschen Wenn der Schöpfer bis 1966 lebte, ist das Werk in keinem Fall frei. --Mogelzahn 16:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
- There are some notes at w:Image talk:Nobel medal dsc06171.jpg regarding the copyright status of the medal. To correct a few misunderstandings - the copyright notice on nobelprize.org only pertains to photos on nobelprize.org, this is self-evident if you read the entire notice.
- Also, according to nobelprize.org, Erik Lindberg was commissioned to create the engraving, thus it is a work for hire.
- The critical question is whether or not the medal itself is considered an "unpublished work", which would be the difference between the copyright on the work for hire being expired (date of publication (1902) + 75 years - published work) vs. unexpired (publication + 120 years - unpublished). That question bears on the very specific question of whether the award was distributed "for a limited purpose, without the right of further reproduction, distribution or sale" - see Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences v. Creative House Promotions, Inc., 9th Circuit, 1991 for more information. I have been researching this and have found no information that Nobel implicitly or explicitly prevents the recipient from selling the medal for profit, and in fact I have found example that it is not distributed "without the right of further … sale". (the counterexample is the Academy Award or "Oscar", where recipients must agree to give the Academy right of first refusal if they decide to sell their Oscar). On that basis I am leaning toward the medal being a published work and out of copyright, although I continue to research the matter. Kwh 19:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
- Delete even if they can be used on fair use, it will still be disallwoed on the Commons. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 19:46, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
- Deleted / Fred Chess 11:32, 3 September 2006 (UTC)