Commons:Deletion requests/No Freedom of Panorama in New Caledonia

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No Freedom of Panorama in New Caledonia

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I believe all these images should be deleted because they are all derivative of buildings that surpasses the threshold of originality in a location with no freedom of panorama (France) --Sun Ladder (talk) 15:10, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note that objects can be too old to be copyrighted. Also note that objects, that are used secondarily or as the background do not need a permission. Tag this images with the Template:NoFoP-France. --Pilettes (talk) 21:27, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
While its more likely than not that Nouméa Cathedral is ok, I'm not sure it's a certainty. For example if the architect was 30 when the design was completed:
1887-30= 1857. So then the architect would have been born 1857.
Then suppose he lived to 80:
1857+80= 1937.
So add 70 year copyright protection from the architects death:
1937+70= 2007
Then 2008 the copyright would have expired [its the 71st year that the copyright expires!]
But if the architect lived to 85 or more or if he was younger when the design was completed, or both, then the copyright would still be in force. So I don't think it's a given that just cause the building is late 19th century that its public domain.
I'm just basing that on the copyright basics, there may be other factors I'm not aware of.Sun Ladder (talk) 11:50, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Jean Xavier Montrouzier died in 1897. --Pauk (talk) 22:23, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think Père Jean Xavier Montrouzier was the architect. He was a missionary priest. He was also a Naturalist and an explorer, but no mention of him being the Cahtedral's architect.
Xavier Montrouzier -in French
Cathédrale Saint-Joseph de Nouméa -in French
Nouméa Cathedral -in English
Jean Xavier Hyacinthe Montrouzier -in English
Sun Ladder (talk) 12:10, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Our general rule of thumb for unknown creators in pma 70 countries is that a work made before 1880 is probably OK. The cathedral fails that test. .     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:11, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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