Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Grande Arche
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Images of Grande Arche
[edit]no freedom of panorama in France --Yaroslav Blanter (talk) 08:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- File:Aufzug Grande Arche.jpg
- File:Defense arco sotto.jpg
- File:Grand Arche.JPG
- File:Grande Arche 1989.jpg
- File:Grande Arche de La Défense et fontaine.jpg, Picture of the Year 2007, DR kept January 2008
- File:Grande Arche de la Defense Paris.JPG
- File:Grande arche de la defense.jpg
- File:GrandeArche-LaDéfense-SE.JPG
- File:LaDefense.JPG
- File:Parijs 2006 134.jpg
- File:Paris Grande Arche closeup.jpg
- File:Paris Grande Arche La Defense.jpg
- Grande Arche - does not make any sense if all files have been removed; kept January 2008
There is no freedom of panorama in France, and Grande Arche is copyrighted. Note that I marked for deletion only images which clearly display Grande Arche as the main object of the picture.--Yaroslav Blanter (talk) 08:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- See also Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Grande Arche de La Défense et fontaine.jpg. --Yaroslav Blanter (talk) 08:40, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Just to comment: The usual objection "The servers are in the US, we do not care about French laws" does not seem to be accepted now: Images from Russia, which has the same laws as in France, get routinely deleted from Commons. Let us finally decide: Either we do not care about fop and restore everything, from all countries, deleted from Commons for this reason, or we delete everything. I realize that it is a pity to delete a featured image, but let us obey the rules, or then change the rules. --Yaroslav Blanter (talk) 08:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- If the decision is to delete the images, I request some grace period (several days) to move them to the projects as fairuse.--Yaroslav Blanter (talk) 09:16, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- I am an author of one of these images and - to be honest - did not realize about such law in France. Therefore maybe they should be really deleted. But I have some idea - is there any chance to ask copyright holder od Grande Arche for any (even restricted) permission before deleting? That would be analogous case to the Atomium in Belgium (afaik the personal photos can be published for noncommercial purposes for a period of a year). Lukke (talk) 10:32, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Delete I doubt DeMinimis can apply to any of these images. --Leoboudv (talk) 09:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete per nom unfortunately. --Simonxag (talk) 13:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Comment Has anything changed since Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Grande Arche de La Défense et fontaine.jpg? Or since January 2008 when these images were kept after a deletion request? /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:33, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
- May be just we decided to stick to the rules?--Yaroslav Blanter (talk) 08:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- According to Anne-Laure Stérin's legal guide, there was a court decision about unauthorized postcards in 1990 - Delete. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 09:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- According to Anne-Laure Stérin's legal guide, there was a court decision about unauthorized postcards in 1990 -
- May be just we decided to stick to the rules?--Yaroslav Blanter (talk) 08:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, FOP in France and all the noms have it as the primary subject. Also File:Grande Arche.jpg and File:La grande arche.jpg belong to this group. Suggest moving the Picture of the Year 2007 (File:Grande Arche de La Défense et fontaine.jpg) to other wikipedias that have the fair use options available. feydey (talk) 08:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Deleted. No FoP in France; as Pieter mentioned, a court decision condemned postcard editors for a picture representing the Grande Arche "in a panorama of which it stands as the main feature or, at least, as an important feature" (TGI Paris 12th July 1990). I will leave the 2007 PotY a few more days so that people move it to local Wikipedias accepting Fair Use. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC)