Commons:Deletion requests/Image:William Speirs Bruce.jpg

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Image is claiming PD based on the lifetime of an author while simultaneously indicating that the author is unknown. The image is dated 1905; the photographer could have been, say, 25-35 at the time, and could therefore have indeed lived another 33+ years (unlikely given life expectancies at the time, but still entirely possible). Without knowing the author (i.e. date of death), it seems irresponsible to claim PD when reasonable age scenarios indicate a possibility that author died after 1938 (i.e. less than 70 years ago). --ЭLСОВВОLД talk 14:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If the author is unknown the copyright expired 70 years after publication. --Luigi Chiesa (talk) 21:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, anonymous works are 120 years from date of creation in the United States. Further, just because the uploader did know the author (i.e. the website didn't say one way or another), does not mean the author is unknown - just unknown to us. ЭLСОВВОLД talk 22:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
...And there's no assertion of date of first publication. Publication, not existence, is the criterion; with no publication date, we cannot make a determination using that criterion. By the way, 70 years from publication is false; the date in the U.S. is before 1.1.1923. ЭLСОВВОLД talk 22:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. You need to specify reasons why the author is not only unknown but anonymous and at least find a proof for published before 1923. [[ Forrester ]] 23:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]