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Files uploaded by Visem (talk · contribs)

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No FoP in Ukraine - modern monuments, plaques, memorials, sculptures, statues, etc

INeverCry 00:24, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • A horrible mess where nothing can actually be found. I don't know if anyone is really able to check all these 152 images, but on the first sight I have found at least one Russian (File:Meeting with Ukrainians in Karelia 59.JPG), one Moldovan (File:Tiraspol 16.jpg) and one Macedonian photo (File:Majka Tereza memorial house 10.jpg), possibly there are more as user seems to be travelling quite a lot. I have no idea how one can discuss a mix of so different images (as objects are even mixed across countries, with obviously different copyright laws in each of them), and it would be very unfortunate if they will be deleted just because someone nominated them without any adequate review. In my view, the only solution is to speedy close this discussion and nominate on a case by case basis, perhaps per sculpture or memorial depicted, in order to allow a reasonable review. 152 images from at least 4 countries is way too much for a single nomination — NickK (talk) 01:37, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Photos with Karelia, Petrozavodsk, Medvezhyegorsk, Povenets in names are from Russia, and Tiraspol from Moldova (Transnistria).--Anatoliy (talk) 01:42, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • The list does not seem to be exhaustive. File:Aleksandr Shabalin ship 2.JPG is a stand about a Russian navy officer, and I have serious doubts such stand could have existed in Ukraine or any other country. Most likely there are more, but I can't check all 150 images as it's beyond human capacities and requires a bot or something simillar — NickK (talk) 01:48, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I see no difference between Russia and Ukraine concerning FoP in this case. Unless one can point works of architecture, of urban development, and of garden and landscape design among those from Russia. However, those from Moldova seem to be suitable for {{FoP-Moldova}}, so I agree to remove them from this DR. Ankry (talk) 05:26, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      File:Petrozavodsk 68.JPG is a work of architecture. Probably there are others.
      Another problem is that some of these sculptures might have been installed as early as in 1920s, but does anyone can really imagine that a human is able to check these 150 images that are presumably not covered by FOP, with no additional information (construction date, author) provided? I can consider this nomination as a certain I'll nominate everything that seems suspicious, anyway no one will check, so they will delete everything — NickK (talk) 12:02, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Something has to be done with this nomination anyway. Looking through monument lists I have spotted File:Druzhne (Kalynivskyi) 6.jpg. Although it had no template (it was removed when this nomination was closed, which was later reverted by nominator), it was in fact a part of this nomination. However, this monument is {{PD-Ukraine}} as it was erected in 1950 (thus before 1951) by Kyiv Art Fund (Київський художній фонд, a special institution in charge of mass production of monuments for the whole region). As institutions do not have a date of death (although anyway it does not exist anymore) and such monuments have no individual author (even if they did they would have transfered it to Kyiv Art Fund as their employer), thus judging on publishing date of 1950 this monument is {{PD-Ukraine}}
    UPD: same for File:Kozyntsi (Lypovetskyi) 08.jpg, also installed in 1950 by the same art fund, same for File:Myrolyubivka (Pishchanskyi Raion) 16.JPG (installed in 1946 by the same art fund), probably others are in the same situation — NickK (talk) 14:09, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please note that this does not mean that I have checked all these files: I just looked through the lists and spotted this one. This shows that nominator checked neither locations (how one can mix Macedonia with Ukraine after reading descriptions) nor dates and authors (as at least one monument is in PD due to its age) — NickK (talk) 12:45, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]


A bit strange that you are nominating these files as a FOP violation. Ukrainian law prohibits publication of photos of copyrighted three-dimensional works. Here we have photos of works, three-dimensional component of which is near the end to zero or trivial. For example microrelief of letters engraved on granite boards, or trivial forms of boards. I checked only the first third of the files. --(Aeou) 22:38, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Split the non-FoP image liste to smaller parts before re-DR as suggested in https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems&oldid=136653869#User:Ahonc Ankry (talk) 11:39, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Visem (talk · contribs)

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Derivatives of non-free modern statues, paintings, photos, posters, no permissions provided, no FoP in Ukraine.

VLu (talk) 10:35, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. - FitIndia Talk ✉ 03:25, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Visem (talk · contribs)

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Derivatives of non-free modern statues, paintings, photos, posters, no permissions provided, no FoP in Ukraine UPD:and in Russia for sculpture.

VLu (talk) 07:30, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@VLu: , please stop fight against my photoworks. Many of your deletion nominations have mistakes, because they are not from Ukraine as you write. Be attentive. --Visem (talk) 08:25, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For everybody who wants to delete my works please mention that many of this and previous nominations have mistakes. For example in previous nomination were pictures from Belarus. Here there are picures from Russia (for example Kosa Chushka), but written by nominator that it is Ukraine. Also there are some road signs, sculptures in the wall, governmenal works which are under free license. Please be attentive. Also some of monuments are already destroyed. --Visem (talk) 07:18, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Visem, so what? Such artworks are non-free in Russia and Belarus as well. VLu (talk) 08:06, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @VLu: , I'm afraid that your questions are combined semi-automatically within this COM:VPC discussion. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:29, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Liuxinyu970226, please explain what my questions do you mean and what you find in common between the PD-Gov and the FoP issues. --VLu (talk) 16:57, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@VLu and Visem: Because, that said, some users think that tags within Category:PD-Gov_license_tags may also be URAA-affected, and hence copyrightable in the United States. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:02, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: per en:WP:TRAINWRECK. Many different cases. Please renominate as separate DRs. --Anatoliy (talk) 10:51, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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