Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by StrangeloveFan101

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Incorporates copyrighted material: Blender logos are copyrighted (https://gooseberry.blender.org/about/).

Patrick Rogel (talk) 22:54, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Patrick Rogel: ! I'm afraid this notice is not valid. The notices on the sources for these posters clearly show them as free content.
For File:Spring2019PillarPosterBlender.jpg, File:Spring2019AlphaPosterBlender.jpg, File:ElephantsDreamPoster.jpg: Within the sources, the symbol for CC-BY is shown under these three, which means they are under CC-BY. Here's the other piece of info that backs this up: "Unless notified otherwise, all digital content (webpages, video, artwork, 3D data) is available under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0." Also, the logos here are not the main focus. I know there's a valid template for that condition on here, but I do not know where it is.
For File:CosmosLaundromatYouTubeThumbnail.jpg: This piece of artwork does not even include the Blender logo. And this was published with the video on YouTube under CC-BY 3.0.
And the Blender logo is copyrighted, but it has been uploaded here to Commons under Public Domain TM due to the logo consisting of text and geometric shapes.
It's not the same. --Patrick Rogel (talk) 05:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your time. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 00:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We could hide the two Blender logos and that should satisfy everybody. -- Asclepias (talk) 01:13, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Asclepias: No. Blender themselves published these as free posters with the Blender logos in them. I think we could add this template: Template:De minimis. It's used in File:Sintel poster.jpg as well. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 08:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Here's more info: According to Blender's official website here (https://www.blender.org/about/logo/), under the "Blender logo usage guidelines" section, it states, "The logo and the brand name “Blender” are not part of the GNU GPL, and can only be used commercially by the Blender Foundation on products, websites, and publications." These posters are products and publications made by Blender. So, they chose to publish these posters under free licenses with Blender logos in them. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 09:05, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@StrangeloveFan101: You have really a strange way to read things: "The logo and the brand name “Blender” are not part of the GNU GPL, and can only be used commercially by the Blender Foundation on products, websites, and publications" and "Excluded from the Creative Commons license is: all logos on this website (including the Blender logo, Gooseberry logo, Creative Commons logo, sponsor logos) and associated trademarks." are explicit enough. --Patrick Rogel (talk) 09:25, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Patrick Rogel: You aren't understanding what I'm saying. I'm saying Blender themselves chose to put small logos on the posters, and chose to license those posters freely with logos on them. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 09:36, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's not that I'm not understanding what you are saying. I simply say your supposition is contradictory since Blender explicitely says their logos are not CC. --Patrick Rogel (talk) 16:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Since it's just those tiny logos that are problematic, if DM cannot be applied, we should just block out the problematic icons. If an icon does not meet the TOO, we shouldn't need to do that (such as the Blender software icon).
I took the liberty of striking the file you removed the deletion template from. – BMacZero (🗩) 17:20, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep as the logos are de minimis here, to me. Carl Lindberg (talk) 22:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep per Clindberg. In fact, I put De minimis templates on all of these files (excluding the Cosmos Laundromat thumbnail). StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 19:10, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep per Clindberg. Although I can see how Patrick Rogel could read the "specifically excluded" section of the text and infer that the posters are all of a sudden entirely copyrighted and excluded, I don't think that is the intent nor does it follow logically: The posters are licensed under CC. The logos aren't. If Blender wanted to prevent use of the posters, they wouldn't need a "gotcha" clause that the logo is copyrighted and thus so are all of the posters because they contain the logo... Instead, it would appear that the exception is there to preclude amd clarify that just because the logo is there and the poster is licensed under CC, you can't now go around using the logo itself under CC and claim "oh, but use of the logo is a derivative from the poster..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jewell D D (talk • contribs) 19:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: per discussion. --Gbawden (talk) 15:53, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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