Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Oppashi

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Files uploaded by Oppashi (talk · contribs)

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Although these might not be over the ToO and have a copyright in the USA, they would have a copyright in many places. Since we don not know the ToO in North Korea, COM:PRP requires us to assume that they are violations.

.     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:50, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Okay please chill now. It's clear you want me to stop contributing. There are TONS of files on Commons which are ToO as well and the Commons server is located in the US right? Why don't you hit on files like this then? File:Korean Central Television logo.svg It's the same thing like my work.
Or these...

*[[:File:USDA logo.png]] (below USA ToO and PD-USGOV) *[[:File:SPD logo.svg]] {{t|PD-textlogo}} *[[:File:Chicago Aurora and Elgin Railroad logo.png]] {below the USA ToO) *[[:File:Bkv.png]] {{t|PD-textlogo}} *[[:File:Flag of Jihad.svg]] {{t|PD-textlogo}} *[[:File:ISAF-Logo.svg]] {{t|PD-textlogo}} *[[:File:STANDUPedlogo.png]] {{t|PD-textlogo}} *[[:File:NDR Dachmarke.png]] {{t|PD-textlogo}} *[[:File:Jpmorgan.png]] {below the USA ToO)

And the list goes on. This whole stuff is just ridiculous. I want to contribute and I upload self-created legal files, not copyrighted ones. If you don't like my works feel free to tell me or ask me to stop uploading ANYTHING. I have no time to 'discuss' because the result will be deletion every time, I guess. Oppashi talk 11:51, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"It's clear you want me to stop contributing." Nothing could be further from the truth. Yes, I and our colleagues want you to stop contributing files that are copyright violations, but a skilled SVG creator is a valuable asset for Commons. You yourself requested a review of your contributions and out of 24 items, I tagged three SVGs, a photograph that was not your creation, and a photo of a graffiti work that has a clear copyright problem. 19 of the 24 are fine, thank you for bringing them to Commons. If you have any doubts in the future about something you would like to make an SVG of and upload, drop a note on my talk page, or at the Village Pump.
There are thirty-four million files on Commons. We get ten thousand new files every day. The numbers make a systematic approval process impossible, so files are posted for deletion if and when they reach the attention of an editor who thinks they may be a problem. It is, therefore, never valid to cite existing problems as reasons why your own files should be kept. See WP:other stuff exists.
Some of the files above are PD because they come from the USA, where the ToO is relatively high. Since we don't know the ToO in North Korea, or even if there is any case law on the subject, we must assume that the ToO is relatively low, as it is in the UK. Some are PD because they consist only of text. The USDA logo is PD because all US Federal works are PD and because it is well below the US ToO. I have posted Commons:Deletion requests/File:Korean Central Television logo.svg for the only one above that seems to be a problem. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:00, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
After reading DPRK Copyright Law in Korean as well I have read some tricky thing. In the English version on the Article 38 they state:
"The term of protection of related right shall be up to 50years from the moment of performance, sound- or video-recording or broadcasting. The term of protection shall be calculated from the 1st of January of the year following the year of performance, sound- or video-recording or broadcasting."
But in the original Korean version for "video-recording" they use the term "록화" which literally means to record image(s). As they basically don't emphasize what about photos I guess by video they meant movies and photos as well. If this is true then photos lose copyright 50 years after their creation because they are counted from the moment of. I guess it's time to contact a North Korean embassy... Oppashi talk 15:21, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. That's an interesting question. I don't read Korean, so I have used Google, which, of course, is sometimes wrong and rarely captures subtleties. The official WIPO translation uses the word "video-recording" in article 38. I also note that at article 9, which lists the various kinds of works that are subject to copyright, line 4, which covers cinema and television does not use the term "록화", and line 6, which covers photographic works uses '사진" for "photo".
Note also that Article 38 covers only "related rights" -- it is not the term of the fundamental copyright. That is covered at Article 23-25, which calls for 50 years from the death of the author or 50 years from publication in the case of an organizational work.
Therefore, I think it is a long stretch to take the term out of "from the moment of performance, sound- or video-recording or broadcasting" in Article 38 and assume that it means to include still photographs as well as videos. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:58, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I know 사진 means photo, it truly does but... Isn't it weird that they don't mention photos in the Article 38? Oppashi talk 16:06, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's not just photos that aren't mentioned in Article 38 -- it's all artistic works -- photos, paintings, sculpture etc. That's because 38 applies only to "related rights" which applies only to performance works and other works. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 21:57, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Hope Oppashi work can be kept, I miss more visual info (logos, flags...) on movements articles.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 23:12, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@HCPUNXKID: These are exactly what I want to create. Oppashi talk 08:18, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Logo founded © expires (50+1) 01. Jan. Decision
Korean Central News Agency 1946 1997 PD by age
Korean Central Television 1953 2004 PD by age
Anti-Imperialist National Democratic Front 1969 2020 Doesn't seem to be the correct logo. See http://www.aindf.com/

Assuming the data provided by enwiki is correct. Assuming the logos haven't been altered over the years and have been used in the year stated and not later. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 11:33, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: 2 kept, one deleted. Sep. discussion with uploader on his talk page about logo #3. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 11:41, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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