Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Mianvar1

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Files uploaded by Mianvar1 (talk · contribs)

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Notes from @Patrick Rogel:

I have asked Congers to add the 500px account to http://www.williamconger.com/links.html if it belongs to him. If that happens this should all be fine.

- Alexis Jazz 18:44, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexis Jazz: As suggested, the artist, William Conger, has directed his web person to add the 500px link to his "Links" page on his official website, verifying that the site is his and that the images all have valid permissions for use through dedication in the public domain. This should happen in the next day or so, so I hope this will delay the deletion of the images. If needed, I can provide notification that is has occurred. --Mianvar1 (talk) 18:26, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Mianvar1: DR is open for at least a week (only obvious cases are closed sooner) and sometimes even longer so there is time. - Alexis Jazz 22:42, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexis Jazz: Please note that the artist, William Conger, has now added the 500px link to his "Links" page on his official website, verifying that the 500px site is his and that the images all have valid permissions for use through dedication in the public domain: http://www.williamconger.com/links.html Please withdraw the deletion requests. --Mianvar1 (talk) 14:49, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 I withdraw my nomination - Alexis Jazz 17:10, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by Mianvar1 (talk · contribs) 2

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https://www.neoimages.com/artistportfolio.aspx?pid=3717

Can't confirm the Flick account belongs to Robin Tewes. @Mianvar1: perhaps you can contact Tewes and ask her to contact OTRS?

- Alexis Jazz 19:25, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

People have no reason to list their Flickr accounts or link to them, so it isn't surprising to not find links to them. I will contact the artist and see if she can email OTRS following the guidelines at Commons:Email templates giving permission. --Mianvar1 (talk) 20:01, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexis Jazz: As requested, the artist Robin Tewes has verified that the Flickr account is hers and has indicated her permission for each of the images in an email to OTRS using the template at Commons:Email templates, Please remove the deletion requests. --Mianvar1 (talk) 09:10, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Mianvar1: I changed the delete template to {{OTRS pending}}. - Alexis Jazz 22:42, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 I withdraw my nomination

Files uploaded by Mianvar1 (talk · contribs) 3

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Can't confirm the Flickr account belongs to her, it's not listed on http://www.merletemkin.com/contact/. I asked her to add the link if the Flickr account belongs to her.

Other images on w:Merle Temkin should be listed as well, but they are on Wikipedia.

- Alexis Jazz 19:35, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Artists don't customarily list their Flickr accounts or link to them on their websites. So it isn't surprising to not find links to them. I will contact the artist and see if she can email OTRS following the guidelines at Commons:Email templates giving permission. --Mianvar1 (talk) 20:02, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merle Temkin linked Wikipedia and Instagram. So it's kind of surprising when Flickr isn't linked. OTRS is fine too, but may be more complicated (and take months) than just adding a link to Flickr next to the Instagram link. - Alexis Jazz 07:10, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexis Jazz: As suggested, the artist, Merle Temkin, has directed her web person to add the Flickr link to her "Links" page on her official website, verifying that the site is hers and that the images all have valid permissions for use through dedication in the public domain. This should happen in the next day or so, so I hope this will delay the deletion of the images. If needed, I can provide notification that is has occurred. --Mianvar1 (talk) 18:27, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Mianvar1: DR is open for at least a week (only obvious cases are closed sooner) and sometimes even longer so there is time. Please move the images from Wikipedia to Commons. - Alexis Jazz 22:42, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexis Jazz: Hi. Please note that the artist, Merle Temkin, has now added the Flickr link to her "Contact" page on her official website, verifying that the Flickr site is hers and that the images all have valid permissions for use through dedication in the public domain: http://www.merletemkin.com/contact/ Please withdraw the deletion requests. --Mianvar1 (talk) 04:19, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Mianvar1: sorry, she hasn't.. http://flickr.com/search/?text=merle%20temkin does not link to her account, it just searches Flickr. - Alexis Jazz 06:00, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexis Jazz: She may not be very technically proficient and may have provided the address incorrectly to her web person. But that shouldn't matter—Flickr is searchable and one can look for and see her site at will. If the intention of this was to prove that the site is hers, this should prove that—why else would she put it on her site if she didn't have the Flickr site? Does it not seem a bit excessive and burdensome to continue to push for the deletion at this point? --Mianvar1 (talk) 06:13, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Mianvar1: William Conger even has a link on his site to google him. And the first result on that Flickr search page isn't even from her account. (although I think the rest is, but that could change) I don't think she has replied to my message (I accidentally copypasted the wrong link) so maybe you can contact her again. The correct link is https://www.flickr.com/photos/156108856@N03/. I just asked her as well, but I don't know if my mails reach her. - Alexis Jazz 19:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexis Jazz: Hi. Just letting you know that I contacted Merle Temkin and she has sent the permissions letter to OTRS . She will also address fixing the Flickr link on her website, but that will take some more time as said couldn't schedule time with her web person until June. --Mianvar1 (talk) 17:17, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Mianvar1: okay, will you move the other 4 files by Merle Temkin from Wikipedia to Commons? - Alexis Jazz 18:14, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexis Jazz: Okay, I believe I have moved the 4 files to Commons correctly. --Mianvar1 (talk) 20:34, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Mianvar1: alright. I also see the OTRS was done as I got a cc. One thing, you forgot w:File:Merle Temkin TulipTree 2014.jpg. - Alexis Jazz 21:08, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Alexis Jazz 21:11, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexis Jazz: I did upload the last one ("Tulip Tree"), but it seems to have been deleted. I just uploaded it again. --Mianvar1 (talk) 22:04, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: per discussion. --Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 08:24, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Mianvar1 (talk · contribs) 4

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 Delete according to Commons:Where is the license on various sites? there should be a Creative Common section or Creative Commons link on each image page. These images have no such link or evidence they are freely licenced.

@Alexis Jazz: I saw the discussion above and I agree there is a link on the artist's own website but no evidence he has released them freely. There is no statement to that effect either on his own site or on the 500px site pages. His own website has a clear ARR statement at the bottom of all pages, so I see absolutely no reason to assume we can keep them. Ww2censor (talk) 09:43, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ww2censor: Do I understand correctly this DR has been created because 500px is busy strangling Creative Commons? Okay, here goes. Open the 500px page. Click "view page source" or whatever your browser calls it.

Verify with other files if you want. This is accurate. COM:WHERE LICENSE seems to be outdated. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 11:46, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alexis Jazz: No this not because 500px are strangling CC licences. All I get with your links are a "Error 403 No go" error and when I view a page source, which means I have to change browser, I see that every image page has a script that contains a list of all the creative commons licences both free and unfree. I can't find any that specifically seem to apply to the image in question. So, unfortunately, I can't verify what you state. If you can provide a better url, I'll be happy to review again. Thanks anyway. Ww2censor (talk) 13:39, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ww2censor: sorry those links were not supposed to be clickable (or be clicked). Photos with a different license contain a different link to creativecommons.org, files without a CC license don't have any <a about link at all. You just have to look at the photo using the regular link, view the page source and find the <a about link. I'm working on an overview for more files. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:46, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In other words, click the source link, right-click the page and select "View page source" (or equivalent), Ctrl-F "server_photo_cc_license", and verify the license URL. clpo13(talk) 19:30, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wow Alexis Jazz, to be forced to verify a copyright status in such a convoluted way is a real pain. I eventually found the source code you referred to, so if you are really sure this verifies the licence, I'll accept. However, it's not really our job to have to go to such lengths; showing the licence should be much easier and is the responsibility of the uploader to provide an easily found link. We really should have an OTRS ticket instead. Ww2censor (talk) 21:11, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Clpo13 and Ww2censor: Hmm, I didn't link Commons:Village pump#Start your 500px importing please, Commons:500px licensing data and COM:WHERE LICENSE here, did I? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 21:21, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(Edit conflict) 500px used to have such a notice. See Commons:Village pump/Archive/2018/07#The 500px website will delete all its photos under Creative Commons license and this old revision of COM:WHERE. clpo13(talk) 21:24, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep These are old uploads from the time when 500px did have notes on free licenses at their file pages. These were removed from 500px but the original licensing can be traced back through the source code as has been demonstrated by Alexis Jazz. Since CC licenses are irrevocable, there is no need for OTRS. De728631 (talk) 22:53, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: apparently resolved. --Jcb (talk) 23:54, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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