Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Jocelio

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Files uploaded by Jocelio (talk · contribs)

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Quite unlikely that Jocelio (talk · contribs) was commissioned by Brazilian authorities to create all these official coats of arms and flags for (+/-) 240 Brazilian cities. Mostly uploaded in 02.2014 (and ignoring for today older, similar problematic uploads), all these files were grabbed from official sites/blogs/Facebook etc. and were declared arbitrarily as "own work" without providing — per COM:EVID — details why all these official symbols may be may in public domain. Ignore exif infos: Mostly overwritten by uploader.

Examples:

To anticipate it immediately. See also Commons:Deletion requests/File:Brasão Forquilha CE.png, regarding the confusion between Brazilian trademark and copyright law. {{PD-BrazilGov}} is decisive.

PS: Ignoring (for today) some files (like File:Brasão de Feira Nova-PE.jpg) which may be in public domain by other means

Gunnex (talk) 01:10, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:30, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Jocelio (talk · contribs)

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Per previous DR: Quite unlikely that Jocelio (talk · contribs) was commissioned by Brazilian authorities to create all these official coats of arms and flags for X Brazilian municipalities. Uploaded since 13.02.2016, all these files were grabbed from official sites/blogs/Facebook etc. and were declared arbitrarily as "own work" without providing — per COM:EVID — details why all these official symbols may be may in public domain.

Gunnex (talk) 16:03, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: . .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:43, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Jocelio (talk · contribs)

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Unclear copyright status, per previous DRs. {{PD-self}} licensed uploads regarding official symbols (coat of arms / brasão + flag / bandeira) of Brazilian municipalities, based on arguments derived from Brazilian trademark law (Lei de Propriedade Industrial Brasileira 9.279) which does not apply (see also the long-term misunderstanding reflected in Commons:Deletion requests/Template:PD-BrazilGov 2, when template was updated). Btw, art. 191 from this law (used as reference by uploader) says "DOS CRIMES COMETIDOS POR MEIO DE MARCA, TÍTULO DE ESTABELECIMENTO E SINAL DE PROPAGANDA: Reproduzir ou imitar, de modo que possa induzir em erro ou confusão, armas, brasões ou distintivos oficiais nacionais, estrangeiros ou internacionais, sem a necessária autorização, no todo ou em parte, em marca, título de estabelecimento, nome comercial, insígnia ou sinal de propaganda, ou usar essas reproduções ou imitações com fins econômicos." = [more or less] It is prohibited to use coats of arms and other distinctive [inter]national symbols in trademarks, establishment titles , commercial names, advertising (...) or use this reproductions/imitations for economic [commercial] purposes.

They may be in public domain only via {{PD-BrazilGov}} = "published or commissioned by a Brazilian government (federal, state, or municipal) prior to 1983" or by other means (I ignored obvious PD-shape/PD-whatever cases like this one) but relevant info — per COM:EVID — must be provided. In detail, we need always the date of the related municipal law to determine the PD-status — which is not given (btw, not given for almost all coats of arms and flags of Brazilian municipalities, however they are currently licensed)

All coats of arms and flags of Brazilian municipalities are established individually by municipal law (mostly some years after official federal constitution, often citing the original designers), as also further redesigns of the symbols which [often] are completely different to the historic ones (see also this case, where a Brazilian municipality created his official symbols only 81 years after emancipation: in 2014). Brazilian coats of arms and flags created after 1982 are [if above COM:TOO) protected 70 pma or (if anonymous or pseudonymous works) +70 years from the first publication. See also: http://jus.com.br/artigos/14982/orgaos-publicos-dominio-publico-e-licencas-publicas.

A quick run reveals also that, even trying to apply {{PD-BrazilGov}}, fails for (examples): Obs.: the year of emanicpation is the year of the related federal law, deciding to create the municipality. The official installation of the municipality occurs only year(s) later. So, even municipalities established before 1983 may have needed several years to create and adopt their official symbols by own municipal legislation.

For the others: I don't know (detailed information about the origin of these symbols are mostly not available online or only hardly to find) and for the uploader Jocelio: it did not matter...


Gunnex (talk) 19:14, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note to the admins: A lot of files were uploaded as .gif, later converted/redirected to a .png version, made by bot GifTagger... Gunnex (talk) 19:39, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Jcb (talk) 00:32, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Jocelio (talk · contribs)

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Per previous DRs: Quite unlikely that Jocelio (talk · contribs) was commissioned by Brazilian authorities to create all these official coats of arms and flags for X Brazilian municipalities. Uploaded since 20.08.2016, all these files were grabbed from official sites/blogs/Facebook etc. and were declared arbitrarily as "own work" without providing — per COM:EVID — details why all these official symbols may be in public domain.

Gunnex (talk) 08:35, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. Daphne Lantier 17:53, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]