Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Botminh24

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Files uploaded by Botminh24 (talk · contribs)

Per COM:VIETNAM, these insignia are not in PD. Cf. Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Dokientrung.

NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 15:38, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh: Several of these files had VRT permissions added before they were nominated for deletion. What is going on with those? --Rosenzweig τ 14:39, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unsure if they have the permission to relicense them as own work, as per the reason cited above: all insignia are not PD by default. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 15:41, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Two images show a VRT ticket permissions, the other files can be deleted anyway imho.

@-sasha-: can you please take another look to the ticket:2022051210004075. I will add a note to the ticket to express my view on this matter. Ellywa (talk) 20:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ellywa: Hi, thank you for pinging me. When I reviewed the ticket concerning those two files I considered that, even though the copyright of those insignia wasn't owned by the uploader, they were simple enough not to be protected by copyright (it was before the DRs that have been brought up happened, I would have changed my mind if I had seen them). If you think that they're over the threeshold of originality (I don't know what the Vietnamese law could say about this) I have no problem with them being deleted. Sorry for any inconvenicence. -sasha- (talk) 20:48, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion after closure or DR

@-sasha-: , @Rosenzweig: , @Ellywa: Hi everybody, it is pretty confused about licensing on Wikipedia, I don't understand why those images have my own work by taking pictures of the object in real life, and some of them just get recreated to visualise the insignia, which does not literally show the real insignia, why they still get deleted? For example, these 2 files:

The first one was taken by me and sure do, you cannot find any other similar images because it was taken by me and published only to Wikicommon. And the Vietnam Senior Colonel insignia is not even the real insignia, I just redrew elements of the insignia, including 4 stars and 2 lines, just for the visualisation purpose and it still got deleted. Additionally, all of the objects about military, especially insignia, I believe they are common knowledge since we can easily find them in public places, media and so on.

Also the stuff in Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Dokientrung, I am not sure about the medals, but regarding the insignia, most of them were drew by User:MrInfo2012. Those are his original works and to be honest, they not even look exactly similar to the actual insignia but still good enough for the visualisation purpose. Why they still get deleted? From what I read in this thread, these images get deleted by unsureness from proposed user. Is it reasonable enough?--Botminh24 (talk) 05:18, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Botminh24, I understand it can be confusing. The first example, File:PhuHieuCoAoCACapTuong.png is a photo made by yourself. But the object you photographed is not designed by you. This object might be copyrighted. And if on Commons it is not 100% sure an object is in public domain, we cannot publish it here. Of the second example, File:Vietnam Senior Colonel insignia.png, I was not aware this was completely made by you. As it consists of simple elements which are not copyrighted, I decided to undelete the image. But in general, if you copy a design of somebody else, it is a derivative work, and it cannot be kept on Commons. I understand your are interested in these insigna's. It would help if you know the age of the design. Then perhaps some can be kept, please read COM:Vietnam (or similar pages of other countries). Kind regards, Ellywa (talk) 10:44, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: In Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Vietnam it is not described whether this country has copyright laws that define a threshold of originality to show which images are not protected by copyright due to their simple design. Therefore it must be assumed these insigna’s might be protected by copyright. In addition, per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Vietnam images made by or for the government are protected. As the age of these designs are not known, the images must be deleted. --Ellywa (talk) 21:32, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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