Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Acratopotes

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AI upscales of historical photographs, using a type of software that subtly beautifies the subject by removing skin blemishes, making their eyes clearer and friendlier, making them smile a little and reshaping the lips slightly to a more classic cupid's bow, etc, such as [1] becoming File:Ahmed al-Ghamdi.jpg and [2] becoming File:Wail al-Shehri (high-resolution).jpg. Wildly inappropriate for historical images of terrorists.

Belbury (talk) 17:01, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. These images are misleading; they are AI-generated beautifications of the persons concerned. They look like photographs, but are not. AI images need to be clearly labelled as such. In addition it is "best practice is to give the name of the specific AI engine used, followed by the name of the person who created the prompt."Toddy1 (talk) 11:36, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Yikes. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:49, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete AI restorations should only be used if provided by government agencies and others of recognized authority to determine what a subject might look like (e.g. a historical person of whom little of their true likeness is extant so an estimation as to what they looked like in life must be made, or presumed mugshots of persons of interest who have been in the wind for a long time since their likeness was last officially recorded). AI images by users are problematic for two reasons — one, AI lacks imagination that humans possess, so it fails to notice e.g. teeth in mouth when the lips are not fully together so it assumes the barely visible teeth are extensions of the lips and thus fuses them together as if into a grotesque third lip; and two, these images essentially constitute w:WP:OR as done by a computer, filling in details not previously evident and with no credible source to back them up. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist ^{(Speak quickly)} _{(Follow my trail)} 06:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Uploader posted to own talk page: "if there's such a rule in wiki (unfortunately i did not know it), then my uploads--all of them--should be deleted." Certainly any that have been retouched with software should be considered for this nomination, though I only know of these 9/11-adjacent ones. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist ^{(Speak quickly)} _{(Follow my trail)} 18:30, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a talk page on the English Wikipedia, and refers to the English Wikipedia's manual of style on images. Other projects vary, and Commons itself has no out-and-out policy on deleting upscales of historical photographs. There are over a thousand in Category:Upscaling.

Here it's a question of whether it is appropriate and COM:EDUSEful for Commons to host and offer upscaled and subtly beautified versions of low res terrorist passport photos. Belbury (talk) 19:04, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would have expected this discussion to happen on enwiki at w:WP:FFD in that case, as having it here unexpectedly cuts straight to the heart of the matter (if anything I would have thought this discussion here would occur afterward). Zeke, the Mad Horrorist ^{(Speak quickly)} _{(Follow my trail)} 19:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's no need for a discussion or an FFD at enwiki; it's flatly against the manual of style to use AI-upscaled historical photos there (most instances of these have already been removed), and the files are not hosted there. Belbury (talk) 09:14, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:23, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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