Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploade by User:Illegitimate Barrister

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Files uploade by User:Illegitimate Barrister

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Reasons for deletion request -- COM:DIGNITY, those soldiers died in the Russian invasion of Ukraine; IDs uploaded without their consent or their family's consent. No COM:EDUSE. Ffaffff (talk) 12:12, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep In the public domain. As for educational use, it is part of an important historical event and serves as an example of what these ID cards look like. Consent not required for the dead (since they're dead and can't). – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:09, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You linked to a template, did you mean to link to personality rights? The page is for US law so I don't think it applies here; moreover even if it applied, the page states "A dead person or someone on their behalf may have a right of publicity."
In any case my argument stands mainly on COM:DIGNITY: there are other pictures which illustrate what a military ID card is (and they are pixelated) and "common decency and respect for human dignity" should prevail. The war is notable, the number of victims is, etc., not the ID cards of those soldiers. Ffaffff (talk) 19:21, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep I do not see disrespect of dignity in these photos. As Illegitimate Barrister noted, they are part of an important historical event and show examples of these cards, which are notable. Sneeuwschaap (talk) 23:25, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete Clearly copyrighted photographs of persons (they have been created by photographers in various photo studios). It isn't public documents. Delete per COM:PCP and COM:EDUSE Юрий Д.К. (talk) 21:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete It is a cards with personal information. It can't be published.--Kursant504 (talk) 02:14, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete It is a cards with personal information--Messir (talk) 17:24, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete There's one argument that there are clearly copyrighted photographs of persons from assorted photographers, but I think that we're missing a greater point—Russian copyright law contains very, very narrow criteria for what sorts of governmental works are in the public domain. There isn't a part of {{PD-Russia}} that I see that would apply to personal identification, even if the photographs were taken by government agents in order to produce the ID. And I'm not sure that a simple ID is one of the materials of legislative, administrative and judicial character that are exempt under Russia's copyright rules, even if there were no photographs. There is COM:EDUSE, namely that this sort of document could be used to show the various sorts of soldiers who were killed in Russia's invasion of Ukraine. But copyright comes first and, absent clear evidence that these IDs are in the public domain, they should be deleted. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 19:56, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination and discussion, mainly because the photos are copyrighted. The documents could have been cropped however, but nobody took the trouble. If you do not agree with my decision to delete the file(s), please ask for undeletion on COM:UNDELETE. If you do so, formulate your motivation why this image can be maintained very clearly and base your motivation on the Commons policies. After that, another administrator will take a decision.. --Ellywa (talk) 06:52, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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