Commons:Deletion requests/Files on User talk:Stefan4
Files on User talk:Stefan4
[edit]Derivative works of trophies.
- File:Barcelona 280.JPG
- File:Barcelona 286.JPG
- File:Barselona FK Barselona11.JPG
- File:Barselona FK Barselona12.JPG
- File:Best Club of the 20th Century.jpg
- File:ChampionsLeagueCup-FCBarcelona-2006.JPG
- File:Copa de Campeones.jpg
- File:Copa de Campeones de España 1940.JPG
- File:Copa de l'Espanya Lliure.JPG
- File:Copa del Generalísimo (1951-1952).jpg
- File:Copa del Generalísimo 1960.JPG
- File:Copa del Rey2.jpg
- File:Copa del Rey Alfonso XIII.jpg
- File:Copa del Rey de Fútbol - 1978.jpg
- File:Copas del Generalísimo Real Zaragoza.jpg
- File:Copas del Rey Real Zaragoza.jpg
- File:Coupe Henri Delaunay of 1964.jpg
- File:LaLigatrophy28-29(Real Madrid).jpg
- File:Las copas de europa!.jpg
- File:Primera División 1929.jpg
- File:Supercopa de España Real Zaragoza.jpg
- File:Supercopa de España de fútbol de 1985.JPG
- File:Supercopa de Europa.JPG
- File:Supercopa de Europa 2010.JPG
- File:Supercopa de Europa FC Barcelona 2009.JPG
- File:Supercoupe d'Espagne.JPG
- File:Triplete de España Euro-Mundial-Euro.JPG
- File:Trofei Camp Nou.JPG
- File:UEFA Supercup 20-03-2009.jpg
- File:Copa de la Liga del Real Valladolid y Pepe Moré.jpg (added by Brgesto (talk · contribs) in May 2013)
- File:Euroleague Cup 2003 - FC Barcelona museum.JPG (added by Brgesto (talk · contribs) in May 2013)
- File:Champions league cup.jpg (added by Brgesto (talk · contribs) in May 2013)
- File:Barcelona 283.JPG (added by Brgesto (talk · contribs) in May 2013)
- File:ChampionsLeagueCup-FCBarcelona-1992.JPG (added by Brgesto (talk · contribs) in May 2013)
- File:Supercopa Espanya de bàsquet.JPG (added by Brgesto (talk · contribs) in May 2013)
Stefan4 (talk) 17:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Keep At least the trophies exhibited in Spain fall under FoP-Spain.--Coentor (talk) 17:52, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, {{FoP-Spain}} doesn't seem to apply indoors. --Stefan4 (talk) 18:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Delete No, it doesn't. --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 21:40, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Comment The key point is that the UEFA (or whoever) keeps the property rights on the designs of their trophies. Freedom of Panorama supports, somehow, taking pictures of them, but only under the conditions the Spanish legislation provides for FoP (that is, outdoors). Otherwise, it's not possible to assert said pictures can be taken and a free license applied. --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 10:09, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Keep calm and speak Spanish... trofeos. Prades (talk)
- Comment You can provide your arguments here, even in Spanish. --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 10:09, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Keep We can add "trademark" templates an keep the images, same as we see for example here File:Trofeu SPFC - varios01.jpg. --Jordiferrer (talk) 09:47, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Comment The trademark template in the image you mention does not apply to the physical cups, but to the trademark of the club shown in the left part of the image (that of the SPFC). --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 10:09, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Keep These ones, on {{PD-old-80}} grounds:
- How do you know that the author died more than 80 years ago? http://www.derecho-internet.org/node/365 does not mention any special copyright term for anonymous works, so even if you are claiming that the cups are anonymous, it seems that you may still have to show that the anonymous author died more than 80 years ago and that {{Anonymous-EU}} only applies to works by anonymous authors who died after 6 December 1987. Also, unless the author died before 1916, the works are still protected by copyright in the United States, per COM:URAA. --Stefan4 (talk) 14:26, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Comment To the admin closing the request, consider whether taverna&diff=prev&oldid=94213202 this and this are sort of proselytism in order to bring votes to this DR. --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 10:09, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think these messages just show a new user not familiar with copyright issues asking for advice. To me, they don't look like canvassing. Furthermore, most - or maybe all - users here seem to have come from other places. For example, I came here after noticing User talk:Jordiferrer#Advertiment: supressi.C3.B3 de fitxer when I left another message in the same page.--Pere prlpz (talk) 10:45, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- La meva pàtria és Catalunya i el meu idioma és lo català, per desgràcia no som tants al planeta... Com he vist que ningú em responia he anat també a la taverna espanyola (Perdó, Perdón, Sorry). Prades (talk) 10:50, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think these messages just show a new user not familiar with copyright issues asking for advice. To me, they don't look like canvassing. Furthermore, most - or maybe all - users here seem to have come from other places. For example, I came here after noticing User talk:Jordiferrer#Advertiment: supressi.C3.B3 de fitxer when I left another message in the same page.--Pere prlpz (talk) 10:45, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- See related discussion. --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 12:32, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Ecemaml, How works the FoP indoors? I've seen that in of panorama the comparative of FoP legislation, in the spanish case it appears unclear "(?) sign". This because the are (or could) be some exceptions, or just another case? maybe We can find some alternatives. --Coentor (talk) 13:38, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Besides, if We consider the other league throphies as derivatives desings of this one, couldn't We keep the other League trophies files? --Coentor (talk) 13:38, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- undelete in 2018--Coentor (talk) 13:38, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- This cup appears to be from 1937, so it is protected for 95 years since publication in the United States. Is the year based on the year of death of the author? Who was the author? --Stefan4 (talk) 14:26, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- The main issue with Freedom of Panorama is that it's an exception. That is, my understanding is that such an exception must be explicit (simply because is an exception). If it's not clear (said '?') then the exception does not exist. However, as usual, we lack here the knowledge of the applied legislation (that is, precedents). Sometimes it seems as if we enjoy deleting files, but believe me, it's not the case, at least in my side. Let's other people to tell what they think. --Ecemaml talk to me/habla conmigo 14:08, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Delete all?[1], it would be crazy to try to implement "standards"... Prades (talk) 14:24, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- FOP-Spain is quite imprecise regarding what is "public space", but some references point to freely public accessible indoor space as "public space". This way, a trophy permanently exposed in a club hall could be covered by FOP-Spain, but the same trophy permanently exposed in the club museum would fall outside FOP-Spain (club museums are not freely accessible because a ticket is requested and there is some control of access). Anyway, for most nominated images it could be difficult to locate where is exactly the trophy.--Pere prlpz (talk) 23:25, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Delete all?[1], it would be crazy to try to implement "standards"... Prades (talk) 14:24, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- undelete in 2018--Coentor (talk) 13:38, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Besides, if We consider the other league throphies as derivatives desings of this one, couldn't We keep the other League trophies files? --Coentor (talk) 13:38, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Comment Es evidente que la propiedad intelectual conlleva interpretaciónMuseums Concerned About Unartful Impact of SCOTUS Copyright Casey, lo museos crean debate[2] y controversiaid=1542070. La modificación de la ley de propiedad intelectual[3] sólo nombra a los museos en el artículo 37:Los titulares de los derechos de autor no podrán oponerse a las reproducciones de las obras, cuando aquéllas se realicen sin finalidad lucrativa por los museos, bibliotecas, fonotecas, filmotecas, hemerotecas o archivos de titularidad pública o integradas en instituciones de carácter cultural o científico y la reproducción se realice exclusivamente para fines de investigación o conservación. Por lo tanto, según esta ley, los titulares intelectuales de los trofeos no pueden negarse a que hayan reproducciones en un espacio cultural como es commons. No sé qué dice la ley norteamericana, pero en todo caso, tal como puede verse en el primer enlace de este comentario, varía según la interpretación de jueces... Prades (talk) 15:09, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Commons no és només un espai cultural. Aquí les fotos es publiquen amb el dret de fer-les servir per qualsevol per qualsevol ús, incloent comercial. Això clarament no és el que diu la llei que cites.--Pere prlpz (talk) 23:15, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- Keep File:Copa de Campeones.jpg as Freedom of Panorama appears to apply in Spain when works are exhibited outside, as this one is. PeeJay2K3 (talk) 11:43, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
- Freedom of panorama only applies when works are exhibited permanently outside, and this doesn't look like a permanent exhibition. --Stefan4 (talk) 11:46, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Deleted: Deleted all execpt 2. FOP only applies to publically accessible outdoor locations FASTILY 01:00, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Files on User talk:Stefan4
[edit]Reopening as there was no explanation as to why two images were kept. The cups are not outdoors, so Fastily's part about FOP does not apply. Also, there is no evidence that the authors died more than 80 years ago, so we don't know whether the copyright has expired in Spain, and as the authors didn't die at least 80 years before 1996, they are still protected by copyright in the United States. --Stefan4 (talk) 12:55, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Deleted -FASTILY 19:41, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Files on User talk:Stefan4
[edit]Derivative works of various cups and other things.
- File:Ballond'or1998zidane.jpg
- File:Balon de Oro en el Museo del Camp Nou .jpg
- File:Barcelona 285.JPG
- File:Barcelona 287.JPG
- File:Barcelona 288.JPG
- File:COPADEEUROPA2R.JPG
- File:Copa Eva Duarte.jpg
- File:Copa Intercontinental (MAG).JPG
- File:Copa Intercontinental (MAG) cropped.jpg
- File:Copa Latina - 1952.jpg
- File:Copa Lliga ACB 2008-09.JPG
- File:Copa Segunda División.jpg
- File:Copa de Ferias Real Zaragoza.jpg
- File:Copa de Liga de España.jpg
- File:Copa del Campeonato Regional Centro 1927-28.JPG
- File:Copa del Rey 2010-11.jpg
- File:EHF champions league.JPG
- File:El madrid copas de europa!.jpg
- File:FC. Barcelona 284.JPG
- File:Hristo Stoichkov - Balón de Oro (1994).jpg
- File:Lingote bronce Supercopa España balonmano.JPG
- File:Real Madrid honours 1.JPG
- File:Real Madrid honours 2.JPG
- File:Real Madrid honours 3.JPG
- File:Real Madrid honours 4.JPG
- File:Supercoparep.jpg
- File:Súper Balón de Oro.jpg
- File:TrofeoCervantes.png
- File:Trofeo Ciudad de Vigo 2007.JPG
- File:Trofeo Colombino.jpg
- File:Trofeo Liga ACB.jpg
- File:Trofeo Mohamed V.JPG
- File:Trofeo Ramón de Carranza (ATM).JPG
- File:Trofeo Teresa Herrera (Atlético Madrid).JPG
- File:Trophys RM.jpg
- File:UEFA Cup 20-03-2009.jpg
- File:UEFA FUTSAL CUP.JPG
- File:World Club Ch'ship Trophy.jpg
- File:FIFA WorldYouthChampTrophy.jpg (new adhesion)
Stefan4 (talk) 22:49, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
- Keep ¿Te aburres Stefan...? Prades (talk) 13:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- Calla, paleto. --95.122.207.248 20:08, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- Paleto tú, tú y túuuuuu 62.83.158.142 17:40, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
- Calla, paleto. --95.122.207.248 20:08, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
Deleted: Per previous closures. Trophies are sculptural works, and COM:FOP indicates Spanish FoP is not applicable indoors. Эlcobbola talk 19:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Files on User talk:Stefan4
[edit]Unfortunately, there is no evidence that Portuguese coins are free for any reason. There is no section COM:CUR#Portugal.
- File:AAS001.JPG
- File:AAS002.JPG
- File:PRT001.JPG
- File:PRT003.JPG
- File:PRT005.JPG
- File:PRT006.JPG
- File:PRT023.JPG
- File:PRT029.JPG
- File:PRT032.JPG
- File:PRT034.JPG
- File:PRT036.JPG
- File:PRT038.JPG
- File:PRT039.JPG
- File:PRT040.JPG
- File:PRT043.JPG
Stefan4 (talk) 21:03, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- Si tu veux consulter la matière, le site de l'OMPI recense le résumé de la législation sur la propriété intellectuelle, avec souvent une traduction en anglais pour chaque état membre, c'est ici. --Dereckson (talk) 22:22, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- Pour le Portugal, pas de tradution, et le code ne contient pas le mot « moeda » pour les pièces de monnaie, je ne vois rien non plus en faisant des recherches sur moeda "Direito de Autor" site:pt (en revanche je trouve directement l'information comme quoi le droit d'auteur des nota (billets de banque) appartient à la BCE, tout va bien donc). Enfin, le Portugal et en Europe et ne fait pas partie du Commonwealth, où l'on retrouve le gros des exceptions au droit d'auteur au motif que la production soit gouvernmentale. Tout cela me laisse à penser que le Portugal n'a pas d'exception concernant la monnaie et que le droit d'auteur classique s'applique donc. --Dereckson (talk) 22:33, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Unclear copyright status. Unless we have definitive, explicit written and/or textual, tangible evidence from a credible, verifiable source naming these files as freely licensed under a Commons compatible license, we simply cannot host them on Commons -FASTILY 00:06, 10 January 2014 (UTC)