Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Videos from Polissons et galipettes

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Files in Category:Videos from Polissons et galipettes

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Per discussion at COM:VPC, there are 11 segments from 2002 pornographic film The Good Old Naughty Days, it remains unpublished before it was discovered by producer Michel Reilhac. The unpublished work is protected by French copyright and the rest of the European Union after 25 years of publication. --49.150.116.127 09:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I understood that these films had already been shown in brothels at the beginning of the 20th century. They are not "unpublished". [1] HaguardDuNord (talk) 12:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep To the "random" IP, there is a thing called lost film, i.e. something that was rediscovered, after being exhibited and them lost. This what happened with the films in the "Polissons et galipettes" collection".
  • [https://www.theguardian.com/film/2004/mar/12/2 Per this Guardian, this films were exhibited in Paris, as said "But these films were an extension of the clandestine world of the brothel (...) Perhaps inevitably, the films were co-opted by the brothels themselves. Knowledge of the blue movies filtered out through the prostitutes borrowed from the huge Parisian whorehouses that the vast majority of French men visited. (...) The films were to provide an important function for those yet to be initiated into the sexual life. (...) The films started to be shown in Paris brothels," explains Reilhac. "We found printed programmes that showed how they were screened at regular hours in the waiting rooms - young men would find out how sex went by watching them before losing their virginity to a prostitute." Wealthy private collectors, who in turn commissioned more dirty movies, bought some of the films - the grandfather of this respectable family house was one, as was King Alfonso XIII of Spain, who had a passion for women with enormous breasts. In this way the pornographic film industry was born." Tm (talk) 13:50, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The unreleased film, same as "unpublished" work and it is under copyright in France, because these compilation was released in 2002. --49.150.116.127 23:00, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To the '''random'' IP. Files was exhibited in brothels, i.e. released publicly, i.e. published publicly. Tm (talk) 14:55, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep If they were sold to others, including Paris brothels, and especially third-party collectors, then they were published.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep These aren't "11 segments from 2002 pornographic film" they are 11 short pornographic films which were issued in a compilation released in 2002. As per the Guardian statement, there were copies made, so that constitutes publication. For obvious reasons, these were not "released" in the sense of being shown in public cinemas, but that is irrelevant to their publication by being copied. The compilation, as a separate entity in itself, can be copyrighted as a whole, especially if it has any truly "original" material - a soundtrack, commentary or other explanations, but that does not cover the multiple, previously published shorts, used in the compilation. - Arjayay (talk) 16:41, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Films published anonymously in France between 1905 and 1930, so in the public domain according to French copyright law. Vysotsky (talk) 19:33, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Closed as Kept per discussion. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 02:10, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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