Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Punky und Lars

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Files in Category:Punky und Lars

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Following general views by experienced Commons contributors at Copyright#Interpreting_COM:TOYS both for photographs taken or in use by Wikimedians and other comparison images where this was not the case, along with several exemplar deletion requests in order to establish a precedent on interpretation of policies, I am raising this request.

The photographs fail to meet the official guidelines of COM:TOYS, specifically:

When uploading a picture of a toy, you must show that the toy is in the public domain in both the United States and in the source country of the toy. In the United States, copyright is granted for toys even if the toy is ineligible for copyright in the source country.

There has been no evidence presented that the soft toys which are the central focus of these photographs, and named in the titles, are public domain.

For an in-depth background and explanation of Commons copyright policies, refer to the Stuffed Animals essay and the precedent of prior closely related deletion requests:

  1. Petit tigre
  2. Erminig
  3. Wendy the Weasel & Percy Plush
  4. Wikimania 2014 Day 1


Though in some of the photographs the toys are relatively small, the purpose of all photographs remains to show the toys so a rationale of de minimis would be inappropriate under our normal understanding of what the IP law intends as the 'focus' of a photograph.

The label for the white bear shows that the manufacturer is NICI GmbH, it seems unlikely that any of their products would be copyright free. For crops of the photographs showing other toys, evidence of a public domain status would have to be verifiable.

Fæ (talk) 12:59, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]


  • While I agree with Elya that several of the above the listed photos should be fine per de minimis, I've now contacted NICI company as the presumed rights holder for their opinion and, if required, a permission. As the nominated files are linked in my request to NICI to allow their evaluation, I would ask not to delete them this moment. --Túrelio (talk) 10:16, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This would apply to photographs of NICI toys. As far as I am aware, this would be photographs with the white bear alone. This seems to be 2 out of the listed photographs:
  1. File:Parkplatzsituation Lokal K.jpg
  2. File:Wikimedia Deutschland Feier 10 Jahre im Lokal K Köln-4.jpg
--Fæ (talk) 08:20, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No. I've received information that the black skunk Punky (whatever it is, racoon?) is also from NICI (already confirmed by the company). What's still missing is information about the creator/designer/rightsholder of Wendy the Weasel. --Túrelio (talk) 08:44, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest they are listed to avoid doubt. --Fæ (talk) 09:36, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: A good test of de minimis is whether someone describing the image would mention the object in question. None of these pass that test. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:33, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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