Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Postal covers of Ukraine

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Per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Ukraine postage stamps of the Ukraine are in the public domain due to being state symbols of payment. There's zero evidence that it would extend to random artwork on a postal cover just because it has a stamp on it though. Postal covers clearly aren't "laws, decrees, resolutions, court awards, State standards, etc." and that's assume they were even created by the Ukrainian government to begin with. So these images should be deleted as COPYVIO unless someone can provide to the contrary.

Adamant1 (talk) 04:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

знаки поштової оплати (далі - ЗПО) - поштові марки, марковані конверти та картки, які випускає національний оператор поштового зв’язку (далі - національний оператор) та які є засобами оплати послуг поштового зв’язку.--Shiro NekoОбг. 07:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm aware of what the law says. I'm not nominating these images for deletion because of the stamps though and these aren't "marked envelopes" either. Their just envelopes that someone put a stamp on. So there's absolutely no reason what-so-ever the artwork on them would be PD. You can't just put Ukrainian stamp on whatever you want and then claim it's PD because the stamp is. That's not how the law works. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
this not (File:Konvert-pidkamin.jpg, File:Stamp of Ukraine ua180cvs Cover.jpg, File:Музей Седова 165.JPG) stamped envelope? And — File:345Колекція конвертів України № 2.jpg (Львівська & Покровська stamped envelope, Куліш та Куїнджі - PD-old); File:345Колекція конвертів України.jpg all stamped envelope [1], except Їжакевич [2] maybe PD-Ukraine)) Shiro NekoОбг. 14:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Музей Седова 165.JPG looks like a stamped envelope. So I stand corrected on that one. The others don't though. Except for File:Stamp of Ukraine ua180cvs Cover.jpg, but it has a pictorial postmark and it's not really clear to me if postmarks are covered by the law or not. File:345Колекція конвертів України.jpg clearly has envelopes with stamps on them. So they are copyrighted. BTW, if you look at the lower quality images like File:Конверт Святогорская лавра.jpg there's a raised or discolored square area around the stamps. So they aren't pre-stamped. The same goes for your first example, File:Konvert-pidkamin.jpg. Although admittedly it's hard to tell but there's a small square area around the stamp that's a slightly different color then the envelope. The image quality is just horrible. --Adamant1 (talk) 01:42, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]