Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Nintendo Hanafuda (image set)

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Files in Category:Nintendo Hanafuda (image set)

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User:Fonsecafrancesco04 has uploaded these images as their "own work", but this is the Nintendo Hanafuda set which has been commercially available for decades. I can't find any obvious evidence that the artwork is now out of copyright.

Lord Belbury (talk) 11:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I made a mistake, I found images on a site with free license, I will find the site and modify the copyright information. Fonsecafrancesco04 (talk) 14:06, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I found the site: [1]. I'll correct the file pages, but the site does not provide copyright information. I leave to the community the task of deciding whether the images can remain on Commons. I'm sorry for any trouble I may have created. Fonsecafrancesco04 (talk) 14:17, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the link. The only copyright relevant information I can see on that page is "© Nintendo" on the photos of the packaging. Since it uses the racetrack version of the logo the deck must have been printed in 1975 at the earliest. Unless there is some known context for this deck using public domain art, this would appear to be breaching Nintendo's copyright. --Lord Belbury (talk) 15:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I understand, maybe is better to delete the images. Fonsecafrancesco04 (talk) 15:29, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Lord Belbury: Can we not keep a few such as this one? It is a unique collective scene which visually identifies and describes the game in general. Ideally, something would also visualize how uniquely small hanafuda cards are. It wouldn't have to be Nintendo's but those are just about the cheapest and most common and most desirable as far as I know. That's what I have. Smuckola (talk) 18:47, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds like a fair use argument for using a copyrighted illustration on Wikipedia, rather than one for publishing a CC-Attribution image on Commons. And one which would fail there, as we could take (or digitally create) the same image with a different pack of Hanafuda cards. I'll see if I can create one with other images hosted on Commons, as the Koi Koi setup is a useful one. --Lord Belbury (talk) 08:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(I've now created such an alternative image at File:Koi-Koi opening setup.jpg, using images from Category:Hanafuda (image set).) --Lord Belbury (talk) 09:23, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Lord Belbury, those images in that image set are also copyrighted - that's definitely a post-war Oishi Tengudo Kintengu deck. The pattern looked somewhat different before the war.

Note: a comment on Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Hanafuda has pointed out that the Nintendo deck has very similar artwork to "a 1960-1989 Marue Playing Cards deck" and "a current Angel Playing Cards deck", but it's not clear whether any of these publishers own the copyright on it. --Lord Belbury (talk) 08:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Belbury, probably, the copyright is not about hanafuda cards, which use traditional japanese designs, but about Nintendo name and logo. Also, Nintendo cards are very similar to Kitengu cards, which have free license and are on Commons since 2007. Maybe we should investigate about the possibility of claiming copyright on traditional playing cards, before deleting the images. Fonsecafrancesco04 (talk) 11:33, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Nintendo cards are very similar to Kitengu cards, which have free license and are on Commons since 2007" - if the Nintendo cards are deleted, the "Kintengu" ones should be deleted too, it's a pattern I'm pretty sure is still copyrighted - that's definitely a post-war pattern, and Oishi Tengudo's pattern is noticeably different from most other manufacturers'. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2001:240:241C:EF89:7C90:BDB7:26CF:D92E (talk) 01:44, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:13, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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