Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Lionel Le Falher
Files in Category:Lionel Le Falher
[edit]Artist Lionel Le Falher died in 2008. (2008+70+1=2079) Undelete in 2079.
- File:Abbaye de thelene.JPG
- File:Abbaye de Thélène, huile (55x46), 1996.JPG
- File:Abbaye nouaillemaupertuis.JPG
- File:Agonie de Bagnac.JPG
- File:Commandant Hussard 1er empire.JPG
- File:Cosaque du Tsar.JPG
- File:Délires et délices 1993 huile (61X46).JPG
- This photo was first uploaded by a member of the family of the painter after his death... We should contact her to confirm the proper OTRS authorization (not sure if she's granted exclusive rights on the successsion as she said she's a step-daughter, not a direct daughter, but may be there's no direct descendant, and her rights on the painting may be partly owned by other successors. However we've not received any complaint from other successors about this low-resolution photo). On other photos by the same uploader, it is said the uploader was not a step-daughter but the brother of the painter. Not clear... verdy_p (talk) 18:31, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- Just want to point out that "we've not received any complaint" is not an argument in a DR per COM:PRP. But, if we can get OTRS-prmission for {{Cc-by-sa-3.0-heirs}} that would be great. Josve05a (talk) 19:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- This photo was first uploaded by a member of the family of the painter after his death... We should contact her to confirm the proper OTRS authorization (not sure if she's granted exclusive rights on the successsion as she said she's a step-daughter, not a direct daughter, but may be there's no direct descendant, and her rights on the painting may be partly owned by other successors. However we've not received any complaint from other successors about this low-resolution photo). On other photos by the same uploader, it is said the uploader was not a step-daughter but the brother of the painter. Not clear... verdy_p (talk) 18:31, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
- File:Etalon.JPG
- File:Foretpetrifiee.JPG
- File:Hussard.JPG
- File:La Charge 1993.JPG
- File:La conscience.JPG
- File:La mélée.JPG
- File:Le cuirassier.JPG
- File:Les dames de Morthemer.jpg
- File:Lionel Le Falher et Arnaud d'Hauterives.jpg
- Is a photo, but is missing OTRS-permission. Josve05a (talk) 20:54, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:Naufrage.JPG
- File:Passage du gué (1996).JPG
- File:Vanity.JPG
- File:L'abreuvoir 1990.JPG
- File:Le divin Marquis (Sade).JPG
- File:Manoir imaginaire.JPG
- File:Partie d'une fresque.JPG
Josve05a (talk) 20:29, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Comment PD review via Commons:WikiProject Public Domain/PD-Art review. Josve05a (talk) 20:29, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I believe the neice/stepdaughter/brother confusion mentioned above is likely who the photographer was, rather than the uploader. In any case, to keep/restore the files, we will need someone who represents the heirs to the copyrights of the painter to verify the license by following the instructions on COM:OTRS. Storkk (talk) 10:59, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination: heir(s) of the artist should confirm license via COM:OTRS, except for the photograph of the artist, where we will need the photographer's confirmation via COM:OTRS. --Storkk (talk) 11:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Files uploaded again on 10 March 2016 (7 days after their deletion)
Several of the photos (in fact most of them) have been reuploaded again, by User:Amispatrimoinelussac (new user created 2016 March 12 09:00, contributions) and are visible in Category:Lionel Le Falher, under different (non descriptive and deceptive) file names such as
- File:Oeuvre 1.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 2.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 3.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 4.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 5.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 6.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 7.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 8.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 9.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 10.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 11.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 12.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 13.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 14.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 15.JPG (former File:Délires et délices 1993 huile (61X46).JPG), or
- File:Oeuvre 16.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 17.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 18.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 19.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 20.jpg
- File:Oeuvre 21.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 22.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 23.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 24.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 25.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 30.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 31.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 32.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 33.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 35.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 36.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 37.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 38.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 39.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 40.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 41.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 42.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 43.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 44.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 45.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 46.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 48.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 49.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 50.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 51.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 52.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 53.JPG
- File:Oeuvre 54.JPG
- File:Son dernier tableau.JPG.
See also (same uploader, in the same batch the same day, not all categorized):
- File:Remise du prix Gustave Courtois à Lionel Le Falher par l académicien A. d'Hauterives.jpg
- File:Lionel Le Falher devant une oeuvre.JPG
- File:Plafond peint par Puvis de Chabanne.JPG
I'm not convinced that you've received any OTRS permission to authorize again these new uploads... I suppose that the new uploading user was in fact the same initial user (see User_talk:Mlefal here, or on Wikipedia fr:Spécial:Contributions/Mlefal, previously also fr:Spécial:Contributions/Plefal) that uploaded the previously deleted files (an admin with "whois" rights could confirm that).
Some of these files are showing again as thumbnails illustrating the same Wikipedia articles to replace the formerly deleted images (notably in fr:Lionel Le Falher where the same User:Amispatrimoinelussac modified this article between 10-17 March 2016 to insert these alternate files, with the same descriptions, and adding some additional new images from this batch).
Several of these files are also posted on external personal websites (owned by the same user and advertized by external URLs such as the former personal web page "http://pascal.lefalher.neuf.fr/" posted in several related Wikipedia articles about that painter, and about Château de Lussac). I'm now convinced that this is just an amateur living near Lussac-les-Châteaux, and that wants to promote that painter without any authorization for these photos (and probably not even by an official local association that would manage the heirs rights).
Once again, if that user ("Pascal Le Falher"? according to his personal page hosted by the French SFR/Neuf ISP, and advertized by him on the Wikipedia article about the painter and the castle) is effectively representing such an association (or is a legal heir), and that association (or he) effectively has an legal right of publication, and is ready to endorse the legal responsability of claiming such rights against other third parties, we still need a signed OTRS certification (with some proof an identity), and not new uploads for the same protected contents.
verdy_p (talk) 23:36, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Deleted per nomination . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:09, 12 December 2016 (UTC)