Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Government Center station (1963–2014)

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Files in Category:Government Center station (1963–2014)

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Poorly lit, grainy, and badly angled photos. We have dozens of better photos of this station; File:Blue Line platform at Government Center station, September 2010.jpg in particularly is a far better image of the same platform.

Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:28, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep
Disclaimer, I uploaded these images.
  • Nominator Pi.1415926535 wrote: "We have dozens of better photos of this station". Note, the image they offered as an example is one of only a handful of comparable pictures. Other images show the tracks, the exterior, whatever.
  • Years ago I uploaded an image of an excursion vessel on the Danube. Another contributor called for its deletion because there were other images of the vessel, and the one I uploaded showed pesky tourists, while the earlier images didn't. In that particular case I argues that, for places where tourists might be found, both images with tourists, and without, were in scope. If someone needed an image showing people using the site, then images bereft of users would fall short. This is the opposite situation. Someone might genuinely want an image of the station, with no riders.
  • Yes, File:"T"_Station_(2557030509).jpg is slightly askew. We have tools for cropping leveled images, don't we? So I question whether this is a meaningful justification for deletion.
  • I generally question debating the removal of in scope images on purely aesthetic grounds. I don't think that is a good use of volunteer time. The image claimed to be superior? What if it is deleted due to a copyright challenge, or is unusable for some other reason? So, keep the in-scope but slightly less aesthetically pleasing image as well. If it seems the category is getting an unmanageable number of images, split them into sub-categories on simple criteria, like color versus black and white. Geo Swan (talk) 18:54, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    COM:EDUSE (part of COM:SCOPE) is policy, and it requires that files must be realistically useful for an educational purpose. It further says The emphasis here is on realistic utility, either for one of the Wikimedia projects or for some other educational use. Not all images for example are realistically useful for an educational purpose. An image does not magically become useful by virtue of the argument that it could be used to illustrate a Wikipedia article on X, merely because X happens to be the subject of the photograph. These images are poorly lit and grainy and badly angled; fixing one of those things does not fix the other. (In fact, rotating the images further blurs them.)
    If you want to avoid spending volunteer time on DRs, then do proper curation when you're mass uploading, so that other editors don't have to clean up after you. That means:
    • Only select images that are in scope and properly copyright tagged. (A scan of your talk page shows that your mass uploads include many copyvios.)
    • If a file requires additional work such as rotation to be usable, either do that work yourself, or put it in a cleanup category.
    • Provide proper file names. "T" Station (2557030509) provides no useful information - there are multiple systems with hundreds of stations known as "T", and the flickr serial number tells us nothing.
    • Provide proper descriptions. Shot in Boston's subway system is marginally less broad, but still could be a photo of anything in dozens of stations
    • Categorize the files properly. You just dumped them in Category:MBTA subway, even though the station name is clearly visible in one photo. My attention was attracted to these images specifically because you poorly categorized them.
    As an example of how to do these properly, please see File:Blue Line platform at Government Center, May 2008.jpg - a photo of the same station by the same flickr user, which I uploaded. Higher quality (better lit, less grainy, upright), useful filename, useful description, useful categories. Total effort on my part? Maybe one minute. If you are not willing to do that mandatory basic curation, then you should not be using F2C. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:42, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Deleted 1 because it doesn't have any potential education use, there are better photos. Kept one since it could be used to show what the Government Center Station subway station looked like in 2008 with there being a presumably working public pay phone shown on the left. I'll work on fixing the file that I kept shortly. --Abzeronow (talk) 16:25, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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