Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Flag of Ljubljana
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Files in Category:Flag of Ljubljana
[edit]The photos contain a copyrighted version of the coat of arms of Ljubljana. See Commons:Deletion requests/Images of coats of arms of Slovenian municipalities.
- File:Flag of Ljubljana (2).jpg
- File:Flag of Ljubljana (3).jpg
- File:Flag of Ljubljana.jpg
- File:Flaga Ljubljany.jpg
Eleassar (t/p) 07:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- I have read whole discussion mentioned above, but it still looks strange for me. There are millions logos at Commons that are captured in the photos. Logos are copyrighted, but photos containing them rather not. I couldn't find any English version of Slovenian copyright law, but is it so different from any other country's? Is there any chance to ask a Slovenian user that is a lawyer? ARvєδuι + 08:01, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- This reasoning that "logos are copyrighted, but photos containing them rather not" is completely unfounded. These photos are reproductions of 2D works. For the publication of reproductions of works, a permission by the copyright holder is needed. --Eleassar (t/p) 08:42, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- Logos might be copyrighted, but the photos of the waving flags are not copies of the logo itself. Read also de minimis rule.
Keep
Julo (talk) 20:09, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see what does the 'de minimis' rule have to do here. The coat-of-arms is the central and indispensable element of the flag. --Eleassar (t/p) 07:05, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- Keep
To me the situation of displaying a public entity's, what a city or a country is, coat-of-arm (or flag) is very different from using a reproduction of somebody else's work of art/statue/piece of architecture etc for commercial purposes. Imagine a thought experiment. Imagine a greedy salesman is trying to sell his product by attaching to the product a reproduction of the Ljubljana coat-of-arms (or flag). Isn't the poor greedy man only helping promote the city's public identity in the world by doing so? It is not the same as somebody selling a reproduction of somebody else's work of art and thus depriving the latter for income he would have had if he had been selling the reproduction of his art himself. An identity of a public entity, such as a city, just can't be sold - it can only be promoted imho. DancingPhilosopher (talk) 13:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- The argument “The copyright owner will not mind/should be pleased that we have disseminated his/her work.” is specifically rejected by COM:PRP. --Eleassar (t/p) 12:29, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Deleted: Unclear copyright status. Unless we have clear, explicit written/textual, tangible evidence indicating that this file is indeed freely licensed under a Commons compatible license, we cannot host it on Commons FASTILY (TALK) 07:50, 13 September 2012 (UTC)