Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Euro coins

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Derivative work of coins.

Stefan4 (talk) 10:53, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, what is the problem with derivative works of coins ? Lionel Allorge (talk) 00:41, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You are not the copyright holder to the coins, so you can't upload photos of them. --Stefan4 (talk) 13:19, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, after reading COM:EURO, I believe it does not apply to my picture (File:Le beurre et l'argent du beurre.jpg) because the copyright faces of the euro are a very small part of my picture and therefore, De Minimis should apply. Lionel Allorge (talk) 14:04, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
De minimis doesn't depend on the size of the images but on the purpose of the photograph and whether the shown parts are above the threshold of originality. See for example this court ruling from the European Court of Justice. Showing coins is one of the main purposes of the image (the file name even mentions money), and the coins are clearly visible. The coins therefore do not satisfy de minimis. --Stefan4 (talk) 19:02, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: . .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:11, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-free coins. Some of them are tagged with {{PD-GermanGov}}, but as explained at Commons:WikiProject Public Domain/German stamps review, that template can only be used for text. A coin is not text. Some of the images do not have permission from the photographers, which a coin always must have.

Stefan4 (talk) 15:24, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 20:37, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-free coin.

Stefan4 (talk) 15:36, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:49, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-free coin. One of the files can be saved by reverting to the original revision which doesn't contain any coin and deleting only those revisions which show a coin.

Stefan4 (talk) 14:08, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Reverted one per Stefan, deleted the other. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:38, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Unfree coin.

Stefan4 (talk) 11:19, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted -FASTILY 00:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-free coins.

Stefan4 (talk) 21:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Delted: Natuur12 (talk) 17:36, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Per COM:DW.

Stefan4 (talk) 21:27, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Natuur12 (talk) 14:29, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Missing permission from engraver. See COM:CUR#Euro.

Stefan4 (talk) 21:12, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's no problem in using images of the designs of euro coins. I wrote the european central bank and various central banks of europe. The problem is when you use images of an specific web page. I made the photographs of every coin I uploaded. Euro images CAN BE USED because they DON'T HAVE COPYRIGHT RESTRICTIONS. European central bank even told me that I could use the images in their web page if I cite them as authors of it. That's even written in their web page!! For all those reasons I think that this topic MUST BE INVESTIGATED BEFORE DELETING THE FILES --Philloven (talk) 16:16, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Only the following reproductions are allowed:
  • reproductions in a format without relief (drawings, paintings, films) provided that they are not detrimental to the image of the euro."
This means that you cannot use images of the coins to create parodies of the Euro or any other derivative work. And that means that they are not free enough to keep on Commons. As you will see above, this has been well established over eight DRs. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:44, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Euro coins are more complex than that. There is one common side, shared by all countries. The European Central Bank owns the copyright to this side of the coins and decides the restrictions, and the conclusion on Commons is that the common side is unfree. Therefore, pictures of the common side may not be uploaded to Commons.
There is also a national side, for which the restrictions depend on the country of issue. For the national side of the coins, coins from Latvia are fine per {{Latvian coins}}, while coins from Finland probably are fine per {{PD-FinlandGov}}. Lithuania will introduce the euro on 1 January 2015, and Lithuanian euro coins will be fine per {{PD-LT-exempt}}. The national side of the coins from other countries are not fine, and can't be uploaded to Commons without OTRS permission from the copyright holders. The list above does not cointain any coins from Finland, Latvia or Lithuania. --Stefan4 (talk) 00:59, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I asked if I could use the images to write an article in wikipedia and they answered "yes, you can if it is not detrimental to the image of the euro". The use of the image, as I used it, is not detrimental in ANY WAY to the euro. It's not a parody either. Yes I see it has been discused but I think it's a mistake. It can't be that the BCE itself says that the images can be used and we delete them based on interpretations. --Philloven (talk) 16:11, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Commons requires that all images hosted here are free for any use by anybody anywhere. Your WP article may be perfectly all right with the Bank, but that is not enough to keep it here -- they must be OK with any use, even parody, which, obviously, they are not. You can probably use the images on WP:EN for a single article under Fair Use, but they cannot be kept here. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 21:57, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per discussion. --Krd 16:44, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]