Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Blue Sky Tower

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Files in Category:Blue Sky Tower

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No FOP in Mongolia.

russavia (talk) 04:04, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Natuur12 (talk) 18:24, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Files in Category:Blue Sky Tower

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Building was completed in 2010. No freedom of panorama in Mongolia: see COM:FOP Mongolia and {{NoFoP-Mongolia}}.

JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 12:48, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • File:Oulan-Bator, The Blue Sky Hotel and Tower .- Sukhbaatar Square.jpg is an overview of Sukhbaatar Squaren. The shot is 900 meters from Blue Sky Hotel and Tower. This photography is located in public places in order to show the surrounding areas. Best regards --Pierre André (talk) 16:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Pierre André Leclercq: thanks for the response. Unfortunately, the list of exceptions outlined at Law of Mongolia on Copyright and Related Rights (as last amended on January 19, 2006) (Article 24) does not contain either Commons-acceptable freedom of panorama clause or de minimis. Worse it sets forth three conditions for a reproduction or representation of architectural and artistic works to be considered as not infringing the copyright of the creators: "to have a non-profit purpose, the extent of use and the importance of the used parts, and the value of the work and the effect of the used part on the market." 1st condition is failed automatically, as Commons doesn't accept images of copyrighted FoP-reliant works from countries where free reuses of such images in post cards, T-shirt prints, and advertising media are not allowed by their copyright laws. 2nd and 3rd may be borderline, but Mongolia doesn't recognize de minimis (and as per one admin on their talk page, de minimis is supposed to be objective and not subjective). I hope that their 2006-era copyright law will be amended sooner than later, though I see no news if they are willing to update their law to be more progressive to the modern digital age, where commercial reuses of images are the norm. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 17:23, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • @JWilz12345: Thank you for your answer, we have the same problems in France, with Commons not accepting images of works protected by copyright and dependent on FoP. I hope that this copyright law will be amended as soon as possible. Maybe I could crop the photo to show only Sukhbaatar Square whose statue is of historical interest. Best regards,--Pierre André (talk) 15:12, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Pierre André Leclercq: perhaps. Feel free to crop, then it can be kept :-) I hope your country may have "a change in heart" and finally welcome FOP, at least for exterior architecture and outdoor 3D artworks (that will be of great help). Though most websites like this seem to indicate (or allude) that full or wide FOP may not happen in France, at least soon. Idk about Mongolia too - hope Ulaanbaatar find the benefits of Wikimedia movement and eventually introduce FOP provision. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 15:58, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination, except the file that was cropped. ƏXPLICIT 12:29, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello admins @Natuur12 and Explicit: . Kindly undelete all images here, and restore the previous uncropped version of Pierre André Leclercq's file. There is now FoP in Mongolia; see COM:FOP Mongolia and {{FoP-Mongolia}}. Since COM:UNDEL is now crowded with multiple UNDEL requests, I felt best to ask for undeletion directly here. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 02:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Thank you. pour cette heureuse intervention. Bien cordialement. Pierre André (talk) 08:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yann seems to have taken care off this already. I'll also go through the other pictures later. Natuur12 (talk) 08:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JWilz12345: all files are now undeleted. Natuur12 (talk) 12:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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