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Unclear copyright status, no entry for Peru at COM:CUR. Supposed "own works" derived from modern banknotes of Peru, copyrighted by the issuer en:Central Reserve Bank of Peru. See also Commons:Deletion requests/File:500intisb.jpg.

Gunnex (talk) 08:32, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Info Btw, same unclear copyright status for (modern) Category:Coins of Peru... Gunnex (talk) 08:38, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Update: At official site http://www.bcrp.gob.pe/banknotes-and-coins.html images of banknotes and coins are available under certain terms of use which may be somewho ("for informational purposes only") Fair use related, or? Gunnex (talk) 08:48, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gunnex. La unidad monetaria denominada Inti dejó de ser de "curso legal" desde 1991 y su ley de creación (Ley Nº 24064 [1]) fue derogada mediante la la Ley Nº 25295, que estableció la nueva unidad monetaria del Nuevo Sol.[2] Además, la Ley Nº 24064 en ningún artículo dispone que las imágenes de los billetes o monedas de Intis tengan copyright. Lo mismo se aplica para las imágenes de los billetes o monedas de Soles de Oro (1863-1985) anteriores a los Intis.
¿Me puedes explicar de qué manera monedas sin valor legal y cuyas leyes fueron derogadas pueden llegar a tener algún copyright? [3]
Con respecto a las imágenes de Nuevos Soles, el Código Penal Peruano solo prohíbe lo siguiente:[4] (Confrontar también la Ley N° 26714 [5]).
  • Artículo 252.- Fabricación y falsificación de moneda de curso legal.
  • Artículo 253.- Alteración de la moneda de curso legal
  • Artículo 254.- Tráfico de moneda falsa
  • Artículo 255.- Fabricación o introducción en el territorio de la República de instrumentos destinados a la falsificación de billetes o monedas
  • Artículo 256.- Alteración de billetes o monedas
Es absolutamente falso que los billetes peruanos tengan copyright, pues no existe ninguna ley que lo especifique. En "Terms of Use" acerca de la información del BCRP dice "is offered to the general public for informational purposes only", y en la versión en español [6] dice: "El contenido del Portal de Internet del BCRP se elabora con fines informativos y su uso es responsabilidad del visitante. Puede reproducirse total o parcialmente, sin autorización expresa, siempre y cuando se cite la fuente.", ¿y qué hay en ese portal? pues imágenes de los billetes y monedas peruanos, los mismos que tú "dices" que tienen copyright basándote únicamente en la legislación de otros países.
Un saludo y espero que retires tus plantillas de borrado de todas estas imágenes, y especialmente de las imágenes de Intis. MarcoMogollon (talk) 03:33, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please, revisa el Decreto Legislativo 822 de 1996, Ley sobre el derecho de autor, que no menciona ni a las monedas ni a los billetes como objetos de "derechos de autor" o protección por parte del Estado. Bye, MarcoMogollon (talk) 04:15, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! Thx for the feedback. As @Jameslwoodward: already indicated at Commons:Deletion requests/File:500intisb.jpg the Peruvian copyright law does NOT have a copyright exception for banknotes (and similar works) via the related copyright law Ley 822 (Art. 9: "No son objeto de protección por el derecho de autor"). So, the question remains: How to treat and license all these supposed "own works" (which they aren't: they were all derived from — see COM:DW — artworks made by Central Reserve Bank of Peru's designer team) in such a way that makes them compatible with COM:L. "(...) tú "dices" que tienen copyright basándote únicamente en la legislación de otros países." No, see Ley 822, Art. 9.
"¿Me puedes explicar de qué manera monedas sin valor legal y cuyas leyes fueron derogadas pueden llegar a tener algún copyright?" This is irrelevant.
Per above mentioned link, the terms of use (btw, appears to be quite fresh created [2014?], as historic versions of http://www.bcrp.gob.pe did not mentioned - so far I could verify - any "terms of use", presuming © by bcrp.gob.pe) offers a license which is — IMHO — open to interpretation: and that's why I started this request as "Unclear copyright status". Gunnex (talk) 16:04, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 DeleteI don't read Spanish and Google does not do a great job with everything above, so forgive me if I have missed something here. I see

"Es absolutamente falso que los billetes peruanos tengan copyright, pues no existe ninguna ley que lo especifique."
It is absolutely false that Peruvians have copyright bills because there is no law to specify.
translator: google

That is backwards. Every created work has a copyright unless the copyright law specifies otherwise, the copyright has expired, or the owner of the copyright puts the work in the Public Domain. The copyright obviously has not expired and "for informational purposes" is the only quasi-license I see, which is nowhere near enough for Commons. As I said at the other DR, the Copyright Law is tightly drawn and currency and coins do not seem to be included. So, unless I or the Google translation have missed something, I don't see how we can keep these. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 16:48, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Per discussion. Unclear copyrright status Natuur12 (talk) 19:06, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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COM:CUR Peru The Inti bill is not free image,

MiguelAlanCS (talk) 08:46, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Minoraxtalk 05:12, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]