Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:1957 Japanese movie posters

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These posters are all {{PD-Japan-organization}}, meaning that they were published at least 50 years ago. However, they were not yet in the public domain in Japan on the URAA date (1 January 1996), so they are copyrighted for 95 years from publication in the United States. Commons requires files to be free in both the United States and in the source country.

Stefan4 (talk) 13:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can they be transferred to ja.wikipedia.org ? Can we assume that they are published 50 years ago in the US? -- Rillke(q?) 14:45, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, Japanese Wikipedia only allows fair use of outdoors artworks, extending COM:FOP#Japan a bit. I'm not sure what Japanese Wikipedia does if a Japanese work is PD in Japan but not in the United States, though. --Stefan4 (talk) 14:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
At the least, they could be uploaded on Wikilivres. cmadler (talk) 14:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Stefan, non of these poster is tagged with PD-Japan-oldphoto and non of these poster could be tagged with PD-Japan-oldphoto. Deleting Japanese movie posters from Commons affect all Japanese movie posters from 1946 to 1961. --Snek01 (talk) 23:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
None of these posters qualify for {{PD-Japan-oldphoto}} since they are from 1957. However, some posters from the 1946-1956 qualify for {{PD-Japan-oldphoto}}. --Stefan4 (talk) 23:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • To resolve this requires more effort than just ad hoc suggestions as above. I disagree with the suggestion to move images to some wikilivres, because 1) that is completely unrelated to Wikimedia Foundation, nobody knows the owner and that site could be anytime sold to anybody or shutted down; 2) there is not possible to transclude images from wikilivres to Wikimedia Projects.
  • It affect millions of works, and there is ongoing discussion at Commons:Requests for comment/Commons Abroad and related ideas that could resolve the situation. --Snek01 (talk) 23:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Wikilivres is owned by Wikimedia Canada and was formerly owned by User:Yann. Are you saying that no one knows who's behind Wikimedia Canada?
    • The Commons Abroad discussion isn't really ongoing but stalled. It is possibly illegal for the Wikimedia Foundation to operate a website outside the United States which violates United States copyright law, so the website would have to be operated by someone else instead, for example by Wikimedia Canada.
    • It would probably be illegal for the Wikimedia Foundation to set up Wikimedia projects to transclude images from an external site if the external site violates United States copyright. --Stefan4 (talk) 23:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for information about wikilivres and thanks for some possibly probable information. There is also possibly legal to transclude images from other websites in the same way as for example Google Images. --Snek01 (talk) 00:29, 19 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Unclear copyright status. Unless we have clear, written/textual, tangible evidence indicating that these files are indeed freely licensed under a Commons compatiable license, we cannot host them on Commons FASTILYs (TALK) 08:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]