Commons:Deletion requests/Files from J Man Flickr stream

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Files from J Man Flickr stream

• File:Andrew Hastie MP addresses union members in front of his Mandurah Electorate Office.png
• File:Andrew Hastie addresses members Afghan community from the Division of La Trobe, in Parliamentary Offices.jpg
• File:Andrew Hastie in conversation with Afghan community representatives from South East Melbourne, in Parliamentary Offices (cropped).jpg
• File:Andrew Hastie talking with veterans, in Perth's Kings Park, on Remembrance Day 2022.jpg
• File:Andrew Hastie talking with veterans, in Perth's Kings Park, on Remembrance Day 2022 (cropped).jpg
• File:Andrew Hastie with spouse Ruth, and Jonathan, Beatrice & Jemimah.jpg
• File:Andrew Hastie with spouse Ruth, and Jonathan, Beatrice & Jemimah (cropped).jpg
• File:Andrew Hastie with spouse Ruth, and Jonathan, Beatrice & Jemimah (midshot).jpg
• File:Andrew Hastie with spouse Ruth, and Jonathan, Beatrice and Jemimah.jpg
• File:Meeting of Afghan-Australians with Andrew Hastie in Parliamentary Offices (cropped).jpg

This Flickr user has uploaded a grand total of 4 images, all professional looking. At least one of them is a clear copyright violation (File:Andrew Hastie with spouse Ruth, and Jonathan, Beatrice & Jemimah.jpg), the others have no information on who the author is. COM:FLICKRWASHING. --Cryptic-waveform (talk) 15:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

• Comment. The nom seems to assume at least one and possibly multiple bad-faith actors. On the balance of probabilities, I think it's reasonably likely that the author(s) is a member of Hastie's staff, given their degree of access. The image you referred to as a "clear copyright violation" attributes the original author and purports to have been released under a CC licence. What is the basis for treating this as a copyvio rather than a case of inadequate release documentation? User:Cryptic-waveform with all respect, it feels as if you are targeting User:MatthewDalhousie's uploads for deletion willy-nilly rather than considering individual images on their merits. ITBF (talk) 04:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

  IMO this is a clear case of license laundering:

So too is license laundering: taking an image with a non-free copyright status (a disallowed, thus undesirable trait) and uploading it, without permission from the copyright holder, to a website that claims to release it under a free license.

— in: COM:FLICKRWASHING

Given the collection of pictures uploaded by this Flickr account, it's safe to assume that they're not the author of the pictures. And I don't think that we can assume that the Flickr user has the correct permission. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 04:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

I don't doubt the intelligence, or procedural capabilities, of the most recent commentator here; however I absolutely question anyone's claim here to certain quasi-supernatural powers of epistemology. In short it is in no way 'safe' to assume that someone is not the author of a photo, when all we have to go on is the details of the publisher. I agree with the earlier commentator that the assumption of bad faith is well beneath expectations of this community. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 00:35, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

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Deleted: per nomination, clear case of license laundering by J Man. --Abzeronow (talk) 19:47, 2 March 2024 (UTC)