Commons:Deletion requests/File:VOA Crimea occupation report.webm

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File:VOA Crimea occupation report.webm

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Video content is not created by VOA. Most content on Voanews is from third parties, in this case for example REUTERS content is used, see http://www.reuters.com/video/2014/02/28/armed-men-control-airports-in-crimea-as?videoId=284959080. In general: Videos from VOAnews contain 99% unfree, not Public domain content. The only thing in this videos that is created by VOA is the correspondents comment/voice. --Martin H. (talk) 20:55, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If it's a copyvio, why did you start a DR? |FDMS 21:45, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That question is a off topic, but ok: if It is deleted per copyvio a discussion will certainly follow at COM:UDEL. Unecessaryly, sure, but understandable, given that there is too litle awareness on this project in regard to Template:PD-USGov-VOA and VOA's content sources. --Martin H. (talk) 00:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep The video is signed with the VOA logo and the speaker is Elizabeth Arrott, Cairo Bureau chief and regional correspondent, Voice of America. --Schwarzorange (talk) 15:57, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete this video contains non-VOA material. --High Contrast (talk) 16:36, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where? --Schwarzorange (talk) 16:51, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
All visual content, obviously demonstrated with the link to Reuters which showed this same video at the time of the nomination. You can still find it by searching google for armed-men-control-airports-in-crimea Reuters or something similar, see e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk9jhyAm95c as the first find. Voa only provided the voice. --Martin H. (talk) 03:59, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I see several scenes in the VOA version which are not contained in the Reuters version, e.g. the soldier climbing down from the civilian truck after inspection, or a soldier walking from right to left in front of the military truck. Therefore, the Reuters version was derived from the VOA version. --Schwarzorange (talk) 07:54, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This means we speak at least of a collage of various sources and we have to cut away all content that is obviously not created by VOA and not created by an employee of the US Federal Government but clearly credited to REUTERS (see [http://www.nytimes.com/video/multimedia/100000002741006/armed-men-control-airports-in-crimea-as-ukraine-requests-un-moni.html NYT among other sources) This includes the whole passage at the beginning, other publications may exist on the REUTERS distribution chanels, the video on Youtube is a cutting. --Martin H. (talk) 13:44, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Also the Reuters clip on the NYT website contains less than the VOA clip. Therefore, again, the Reuters clip was derived from the VOA video. --Schwarzorange (talk) 14:54, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Reuters sells a broad number of video material and publishes some video material themself. Of course they will not take VOA material and sell it. VOA is buying this content from REUTERS. The fact that I have no acces to REUTERS original material and the fact that you not do any research yourself will not change the copyright status of this material. On the other hand the fact that REUTERS distributes this material, the fact that most of VOAS visual content is bought from agencies, and the fact that other newspapers and tv stations buy REUTERS content and credit them as the source is a clear evidence that this is REUTERS content. --Martin H. (talk) 14:45, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
P.S: Please take a look at http://www.voanews.com/info/terms_of_use_privacy_policy/1363.html, section "USE OF CONTENT AND Copyright": The VOA News and Information Websites may contain text, video, audio, images, graphics, and other copyrighted material furnished by the Associated Press, Reuters, AFP, ABC News, and other content providers (collectively, “Vendor Content”). The Vendor Content is licensed for use in VOA programming only. Vendor Content is copyright protected and other than as stated above, may not be copied[...] You should assume all audio and radio programming on VOA News and Information Websites includes Vendor Content unless VOA specifically informs you otherwise. You should assume that this video contains Non-VOA-material unless VOA informs you otherwise. --Martin H. (talk) 15:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If VOA uses Reuters or AP, they use the Reuters or AP logo. If they use own material, they use the VOA logo. --Schwarzorange (talk) 20:23, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, thats simply not true. They sometimes do it for photographic works - with many mistakes especially in the foreign language versions because the watermark is not added permanently but by a simple software trick - but they not regularly do this for videos. --Martin H. (talk) 04:28, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep No content from sources other than VoA. --Centovalli (talk) 14:09, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Derivative of non-free content. This contains content that was not created by VoA FASTILY 11:31, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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