Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tor jreed 091510 A07.jpg

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File:Tor jreed 091510 A07.jpg

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This photograph was found on a National Weather Service website and attributed "Photo courtesy of Jim Reed" -- https://www.weather.gov/ict/event_2010gianthail and there is no evidence that Reed transferred his copyright into the Public Domain as the uploader claims.

Furthermore, note that it bears a watermark that says "© Jim Reed Photography" Rlandmann (talk) 16:46, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closing admins should familiarise themselves with the evidence and discussions at this RfC when closing this request.
  •  Keep Again this falls under the NWS submission rules that submitting a copyrighted image has it become public domain. Every image was once copyrighted, even the ones I release into the public domain/creative commons/Flickr Commons/Wikimedia Commons. One of my digital cameras boilerplate stamps my name and date and the copyright symbol, which is in the metadata, but I am releasing under a CC license. --RAN (talk) 17:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The NWS has had multiple, conflicting submission rules over the last ~20 years. We have no way of knowing which (if any) of these this particular image was submitted under. A partial list can be found at A3 in this DR. Two more have been uncovered in the 4 days since I compiled that list. --Rlandmann (talk) 21:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just a heads up @Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): , while we have almost always agreed on these type of deletion requests, this is actually a copyrighted image. See my delete statement below. This is a rare instance of NWS hosting copyrighted images, which they do and are allowed to do. WeatherWriter (talk) 01:00, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete — The image came from this NWS webpage, which has a disclaimer button, which links users to the National Weather Service disclaimer, which states, “The information on National Weather Service Web servers and Web sites is in the public domain, unless specifically annotated otherwise, and may be used freely by the public.” For the clause of “specifically annotated otherwise”, NWS either allows the user to add a copyright “©” watermark to the image {as seen in this image, hosted on this NWS webpage} or by directly adding a copyright statement using “©” {as seen on this NWS webpage: difference between the “Tornado Photos” and “Damage” tabs}. As seen on the image hosted on the NWS web server, it does have a copyright © watermark. That disclaimer is linked at the bottom of all three of the NWS webpages linked above (one for this one + 2 I used as examples). As seen, this image should be deleted as it is copyrighted. This is exactly what the “unless specifically annotated otherwise” clause is for. WeatherWriter (talk) 00:58, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Strong Delete per @WeatherWriter. This has a copyright watermark on it; even if the PD-NWS rationale was still valid (which it’s not), it would need to be DR’d. WestVirginiaWX (talk) 19:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This approaches (but not quite reaches) copyvio territory. WestVirginiaWX (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete per nomination. Even if it did not have the copyright symbol on the webpage, we cannot "trust the NWS" on its status - commons requires explicit licensure, not implicit/third party. Berchanhimez (talk) 23:04, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete per WeatherWriter. ChessEric (talk) 06:22, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination and discussion, as well as COM:PRP. --P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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