Commons:Deletion requests/File:The original Winnie the Pooh toys.jpg
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Withdrawn by nom. Thank you for the research, RP88. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 00:09, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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I believe that these stuffed animals are covered by copyright. A. A. Milne, the creator of the characters, died in 1956. Awadewit (talk) 07:43, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Keep, these are ordinary merchandise, no reason that the author of the books should have copyright to pictures of toys he bought for his son. Read the story about the toys at this NYPL webpage, that is also linked from "our" Pooh-article. Bw --Orland (talk) 22:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)- Keep, agree with Orland (talk · contribs), the NYPL webpage points out that these are just random toys, writing a story about them after the toys were produced does not retroactively give one copyright over them. Cirt (talk) 03:35, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- Keep, random toys bought at Harrod's in the 1920 aren't © A. A. Milne. --Kjetil_r 08:51, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Kept. MichaelMaggs (talk) 16:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
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The previous DR focused on a copyright which might belong to AA Milne, which is, of course, not existent because the toys came before the story. It completely ignored the fact that the creators of the toys have a copyright, which may or may not have expired. Without good evidence that the copyright for each of these toys has expired, we can't keep this image. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 17:37, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
- It seems as anything is copyrighted by someone. Would you forbid uploading a picture of a printer, since it might be copyrighted by manufacture...?
--Yuval Y § Chat § 00:47, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if that's a real question or just sarcasm, since an Admin with your experience should know the answer.
- Of course not -- a printer is utilitarian and cannot have a copyright. Toys (except in Japan) are not considered utilitarian and do have copyrights. Therefore we can't keep a picture of a copyrighted toy anymore than we could keep a scan of a page of a copyrighted book or newspaper.
- By pure coincidence, I mentioned you on my talk page yesterday as one of our Hebrew speaking Admins who might be useful to new users. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:06, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
- Keep — The stuffed animals depicted are the actual Harrods toys purchased for Christopher Milne in the early 1920's (the bear on August 21, 1921, the rest between 1920 and 1928). As might be expected, due to the great interest in A.A. Milne's stories, historians and collectors have made concerted attempts to identify the original designers of these toys (e.g. Martin, K. (2010) Farnell teddy bears.). Unfortunately these efforts have not been successful, largely due to the fact that the design of some of these toys is quite a bit older than 1920 and pre-WWI records of these toy's manufacturers are very scant or nonexistent. Because these toys were made available to the public before 1 January 1944, both by publication in Harrods early toy catalogs and by pubic sale in stores, I am comfortable with saying the toys are {{PD-UK-unknown}}. I've updated the file summary and license accordingly. —RP88 (talk) 15:41, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nom. Thank you for the research, RP88. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 00:09, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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Derivative works of toys and models - see COM:TOYS, COM:CB and User:Elcobbola/Models... Vikiçizer (talk) 22:40, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Please read the evidence presented in previous DRs before nominating files again. Based on the extensive research done on the toys, they clearly qualify for {{PD-UK-unknown}}. Please consider withdrawing this DR. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:32, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per above two previous keeps; I can see no new issue brought up by this relisting. -- Infrogmation (talk) 21:08, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Kept: as above. Yann (talk) 21:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
