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No authorship information, unknown copyright situation. No indication that the author would have died before 1947. Jcb (talk) 23:52, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Keep. First, if there is no author, they fall under Template:PD-anon-70-EU. Second, this stamp fails originality requirement to be copyrightable: city's coat of arms is PD, the rest of the design is simple geometry and text. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:34, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- PD-anon-EU is for cases where the author is anonymous, which is completely different from unknown to us. Also I think this is above TOO. Jcb (talk) 14:03, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- From w:Anonymous work: "Anonymous works are works, such as art or literature, that have an anonymous, undisclosed, or unknown creator or author." And you need to elaborate on why you think this is above TOO. I explained why it is not.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:23, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- You have to show that it's really unknown, that it has never been published somewhere, of you want to use that argument. Jcb (talk) 15:11, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- I have been unable to find any evidence that this stamp has a known author. Did you? If neither of us can find it, that is a reasonable proof that the image's author is anonymous, with no objection to new deletion discussion if the author is ever identified. Also, your argument that the burden of proof, beyond doubt, is on the uploader, was considered and rejected by the consensus of editors at the Anonymous-EU template: Template_talk:PD-anon-70-EU#Latest_revisions. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 04:16, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- A discussion on some talk page does not overrule our policies and copyright regulations. If we do not have any indication that the author would have published the work without disclosing their identity, we cannot consider a work 'anonymous'. Jcb (talk) 15:33, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- I have been unable to find any evidence that this stamp has a known author. Did you? If neither of us can find it, that is a reasonable proof that the image's author is anonymous, with no objection to new deletion discussion if the author is ever identified. Also, your argument that the burden of proof, beyond doubt, is on the uploader, was considered and rejected by the consensus of editors at the Anonymous-EU template: Template_talk:PD-anon-70-EU#Latest_revisions. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 04:16, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- You have to show that it's really unknown, that it has never been published somewhere, of you want to use that argument. Jcb (talk) 15:11, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- From w:Anonymous work: "Anonymous works are works, such as art or literature, that have an anonymous, undisclosed, or unknown creator or author." And you need to elaborate on why you think this is above TOO. I explained why it is not.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:23, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- PD-anon-EU is for cases where the author is anonymous, which is completely different from unknown to us. Also I think this is above TOO. Jcb (talk) 14:03, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Kept: PD-anon-70-EU. --Yann (talk) 21:31, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
