Commons:Deletion requests/File:President Obama Re-Takes Oath.ogg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
The file claims to be from a senate.gov source, but this license was clearly copied from the first oath. This audio file is grainy and does not apparently come from a government source; it may be an illicit recording by a journalist. The copyright status is, therefore, being misrepresented. Fair use may be appropriate, though? Sbp (talk) 11:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Keep, I don't think it is an issue as it's a recording of the President and Chief Justice quoting the Constitution in the White House. It sounds like it is property of the federal government to me. Hera1187 (talk) 14:41, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Keep, as the uploader, I assumed it had the same copyright status as the first oath. --Philip Stevens (talk) 16:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Keep, the media is using the same recording. I've heard it on CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/21/obama.oath/index.html#cnnSTCOther1), an Associated Press video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cANpyxrtTE), and BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/obama_inauguration/7843881.stm). I do believe the source should be clarified, however. CNN claims the source is "CNN, White House" --Fleckrl (talk) 16:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
- Keep. I know I read last night that the photo and audio clip were supplied by the White House; CNN even wrote an article complaining they didn't get to film it (only some print media representatives were there). Anyways, here is a page which says "Source: White House". PD-USGov is correct, though {{PD-USGov-POTUS}} would be more specific. I'm sure CNN adds their name to most credits if they can; I remember them doing the same when they were the first to get the (public domain) Army Corps of Engineers video of the Minneapolis bridge collapsing. Carl Lindberg (talk) 01:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- Keep. Isn't there some kind of right to openly record sound in public places, even if you happen to overheard someone else's conversation? And the speech is the work of a federal official in his official capacity even before the White House decides to send it to the media on tape, because Obama is a federal official, no? 24.115.71.204 07:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Copyright of sound recordings is ridiculously complicated, but in general the person doing the recording owns the copyright of that particular recording. The question was who recorded it... a news organization, or White House employees? In the end apparently the White House did, so everything is fine. (Recordings are often derivative works, be it of songs or written text or other, but that is not an issue here either.) Carl Lindberg (talk) 07:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Keep. From my understanding, the White House controlled the release of all information (photos, recordings) related to the retake of the oath. Based on consensus to keep the file and since this matter has been open since late January 2009, I move to close this matter. Lwalt (talk) 23:09, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Kept per the analysis of Carl Lindberg. --AFBorchert (talk) 17:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)