Commons:Deletion requests/File:Navahradak. Наваградак (1792).jpg
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A probably still copyrighted photograph of a 3D object; see Commons:When to use the PD-scan tag. Eleassar (t/p) 08:36, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- It's a scan of 2D image (drawing of coat of arms), not 3D object. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 17:37, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- To me, it seems like a bas relief. --Eleassar (t/p) 22:29, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- It's definitly not a bas relief, because this drawing comes from king's privilege, given to Navahradak in 1792. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 08:26, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- I read here the word печати (seals) and it definitely looks like a seal, which does qualify as a bas relief (see e.g. [1]). --Eleassar (t/p) 08:39, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- Such coloured seals never existed, at least in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Your example shows like real seal looks and of course it's not coloured. King's priviledges usually contains the picture of coat of arms and the description of city seal. These thing are connected. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 08:54, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- Are you sure about this? A source would be needed. Here or here is another example of a coloured seal, though not from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. --Eleassar (t/p) 09:02, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- For example everyone who understand Belarusian could read about it in: Цітоў А. Геральдыка Беларусі. — Мінск, 2010 or Цітоў А. Сфрагістыка і геральдыка Беларусі. — Мінск, 1999. There were no coloured seals in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 09:15, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- Can you quote the relevant passage? --Eleassar (t/p) 09:28, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- If you expect something like "there were no coloured seals" it's impossible. These works contain descriptions of all existing seals of Belarusian sities and towns and among all these seals there are no mentions about coloured ones. So they never existed. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 17:35, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- Here is an example of similar circular coat of arms from 1792 king's privilege. But this image has better resolution so it couldn't be confused with a seal or a bas relief. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 17:51, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- Can you quote the relevant passage? --Eleassar (t/p) 09:28, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- For example everyone who understand Belarusian could read about it in: Цітоў А. Геральдыка Беларусі. — Мінск, 2010 or Цітоў А. Сфрагістыка і геральдыка Беларусі. — Мінск, 1999. There were no coloured seals in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. --Kazimier Lachnovič (talk) 09:15, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- To me, it seems like a bas relief. --Eleassar (t/p) 22:29, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Kept: No serious doubt that it is in the public domain. Yann (talk) 19:43, 22 November 2013 (UTC)