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File:IEEE defends duplicate publication 2015.pdf

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A lengthy email is copyrightable, furthermore most academic journals will ask for some evidence of consent before allowing publication/disclosure of an e-mail between 2 parties. It's not clear if the uploader is one of the mentioned parties in the e-mail. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:56, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete as a copyright violation. To pre-emptively note some possible objections, I will note that
  • Tennessee is not one of the states that put their government documents in the public domain (source)
  • Regardless, most of the email is written by an employee of IEEE, a private organization
Vahurzpu (talk) 19:03, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The objection is in error. Tennessee does indeed put its government documents in the public domain, as per statute:
As used in this part and title 8, chapter 4, part 6, "public record or records" or "state record or records" means all documents, papers, letters, maps, books, photographs, microfilms, electronic data processing files and output, films, sound recordings or other material, regardless of physical form or characteristics, made or received pursuant to law or ordinance or in connection with the transaction of official business by any governmental agency.
TN Code § 10-7-503
The email was "received ... in connection with the transaction of official business by any governmental agency," namely the University of Tennessee.
The objection links to a website that is in agreement with the uploading of a state university public record:
"The Tennessee Public Records Act does not restrict subsequent use of records, or require a requestor to disclose their intended use." Mentionmart (talk) 19:16, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The email is a public record under state law. It is in the public domain and not subject to copyright. Mentionmart (talk) 19:03, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Public record, and public domain are not the same thing. A document can be public record and still subject to copyright, especially that produced by a private organisation like the IEEE. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:06, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is no copyright in government documents in the public domain, as per statute:
As used in this part and title 8, chapter 4, part 6, "public record or records" or "state record or records" means all documents, papers, letters, maps, books, photographs, microfilms, electronic data processing files and output, films, sound recordings or other material, regardless of physical form or characteristics, made or received pursuant to law or ordinance or in connection with the transaction of official business by any governmental agency.
TN Code § 10-7-503
The email was "received ... in connection with the transaction of official business by any governmental agency," namely the University of Tennessee. The sender and recipient have no rights with respect to copies of the document, inasmuch as TN Code § 10-7-503 provides that copies are available upon request, and does not restrict their subsequent use. As a result, copies can be made freely and used freely, including uploads to wikimedia. Mentionmart (talk) 22:33, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, there are numerous exceptions to the Tennessee Public Records Act. A summary is available at [1]; while I am not qualified to make a definitive statement on the matter, 49-7-120 could potentially be relevant. Omphalographer (talk) 22:38, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding TN Code 49-7-120, it creates exceptions for such things as patentable materials and trade secrets.
The university has already released this document in response to a request for records, thereby demonstrating that the document is not subject to the exceptions. Mentionmart (talk) 22:56, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete Aside from anything else, this is a text file not in use. Commons doesn't host those. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:26, 17 August 2023 (UTC) [Crossed out, now that there appears to be a consensus for Commons to officially host some text files that are not in use. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:14, 19 August 2023 (UTC)][reply]
    On what basis is the claim made that the text file is not in use? The content represents that it describes publication policies, which are currently in use.
    Is every wikimedia file "in use"? Mentionmart (talk) 22:36, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • On this basis: File usage on Commons
There are no pages that use this file.
If it were in use on any non-Commons Wikimedia pages, those would be indicated afterwards, but there are none. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:09, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Below the "File history" section are two "file usage" sections, one titled File usage on Commons and another titled File usage on other wikis. These two sections will list all instances on Wikimedia Foundation projects where your file is currently in use.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:FAQ
The objector appears to want to delete content before it can be used elsewhere, on the basis that the content has not yet been used elsewhere. Mentionmart (talk) 23:18, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Here is one of many examples of wikimedia content where "There are no pages that use this file."
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Scissors_image.jpg Mentionmart (talk) 23:27, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That isn't a text file. This is. Omphalographer (talk) 23:34, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Mentionmart, read Commons:Scope. Text files are out of scope on Commons. We make exceptions for text files that are in use on another Wiki site per COM:INUSE, but they are exceptions. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:39, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The aim of wikimedia commons is to make educational media content available to all.
The expression "educational" is to be understood according to its broad meaning of "providing knowledge; instructional or informative".
The content of the file is educational. It explains the position of the IEEE IAS Publications Editorial Office regarding duplicate publications due to an:
important change in IEEE Publication Policy that will take effect in January 2016. Many of you are aware of the debate that has been raging within IEEE over handling of conference papers.
The document provides knowledge, is instructional and informative. Mentionmart (talk) 01:01, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You're wasting time. Read COM:SCOPE. Files that are purely text are not in scope. And arguing here won't change that. If you want to change Commons policy on scope, try arguing at Commons talk:Project scope, and good luck, because you will fail. Commons is a repository of images, not text. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:03, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Here are a few of the many examples of educational text documents on wikimedia:
File:Robertson_panel_report.pdf
File:20210331_-_CRED_Report_-_FINAL_-_Web_Accessible.pdf
File:Report_of_the_Puerto_Rico_Experiment_Station_(IA_CAT31294391015).pdf
It appears there are hundreds of text files merely of reports alone.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=panel+report&title=Special:MediaSearch&go=Go&type=other&filemime=pdf
No change is needed to the policy on scope. Such educational documents are demonstrably in scope. Mentionmart (talk) 01:51, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:20210331 - CRED Report - FINAL - Web Accessible.pdf is COM:INUSE. The other two should probably be nominated for deletion. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:20, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
User:Mentionmart, maybe you won't fail. Here's the relevant policy discussion thread: Commons talk:Project scope#Proposed change in wording. Please feel free to express your opinion there. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:04, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There are numerous "wiki" reports (such as "Wiki Education Foundation Monthly Report") at the above link, indicating that the wiki foundation considers such pdf text files to be in scope.
Rather than launching a purge of existing wikimedia content, the recent upload of a 4-page educational document explaining a publishing policy should be allowed to remain.
Here is a partial listing of existing pdf text files on wikimedia commons at the above link. They are generally large, multi-page documents. It appears that there are hundreds of such pdf text files at the above link.
The report of the Hillsborough Independent Panel - September 2012.pdf PDF 1,239 × 1,752 (6.79 MB)
Report DCA22MA193.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (4.25 MB)INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE (IPCC) THIRD ASSESSMENT REPORT (IA gov.gpo.fdsys.CHRG-107shrg88709).pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (1.58 MB)
Annual report of Wikimedia CZ 2020.pdf PDF 1,239 × 1,752 (2.77 MB)
Policing for a better Britain full report 2013.pdf PDF 1,239 × 1,752 (3.09 MB)
NTP‐CERHR Expert Panel Report on the reproductive and developmental toxicity of fluoxetine.pdf PDF 1,268 × 1,647 (778 KB)
Report on meeting of panel of consultants (IA CAT11090248001).pdf PDF 1,158 × 1,539 (253 KB)
Report on meeting of panel of consultants (IA CAT11090248002).pdf PDF 1,170 × 1,533 (245 KB)
Wiki Education Monthly Report 2019-05.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (1.06 MB)
Wiki Education Monthly Report, August 2019.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (896 KB)
Wiki Education Monthly Report 2019-10.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (2.34 MB)
Wiki Education Monthly Report 2020-01.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (1.99 MB)
Wiki Education Monthly Report 2021-03.pdf PDF 1,241 × 1,754 (233 KB)
20210331 - CRED Report - FINAL - Web Accessible.pdf PDF 1,239 × 1,752 (18.51 MB)Health Technical Panel report to the 1991 Advisory Council on Social Security (IA healthtechnicalp00unit).pdf PDF 831 × 1,308 (13 MB)
CAB AcREPORT OF THE NATIONAL READING PANEL (IA gov.gpo.fdsys.CHRG-106shrg66481).pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (202 KB)
Social Security Technical Panel report to the 1991 Advisory Council on Social Security (IA socialsecurityte00unit).pdf PDF 847 × 1,304 (6.32 MB)
Report of the President's Biomedical Research Panel - Supp 2 (IA reportofpresiden02unit).pdf PDF 1,175 × 1,535 (22.34 MB)
Wiki Education Foundation Monthly Report 2015-07.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (970 KB)
Report of the President's Biomedical Research Panel - Supp 1 (IA reportofpresiden01uni).pdf PDF 1,137 × 1,527 (13.17 MB)
Wiki Education Foundation Monthly Report 2016-04.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (5.37 MB)
Report of the President's Biomedical Research Panel - Supp 3 (IA reportofpresiden03unit).pdf PDF 852 × 1,158 (12.81 MB)
Wiki Education Foundation Monthly Report 2015-08.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (1.29 MB)
First annual report - Oil Shale Environmental Advisory Panel (IA firstannualrepor00unse 1).pdf PDF 1,564 × 2,079 (3.46 MB)
Farm building panels - a research report on developing and evaluating an insulated concrete stressed-skin panel (IA CAT31328177).pdf PDF 1,162 × 1,627 (1.02 MB)
The Report of the Kerr Haslam Inquiry - July 2005 - V1 - Cm 6640-1.pdf PDF 1,239 × 1,754 (2.67 MB)
Report of the Puerto Rico Experiment Station (IA CAT31294391001).pdf PDF 970 × 1,466 (4.04 MB)
cident Report, United Airlines Flight 736.pdf PDF 1,127 × 1,516 (1.65 MB)
Report of the Secretary-General's Panel of Experts on Accountability in Sri Lanka.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (9.17 MB)
The Report of the Kerr Haslam Inquiry - July 2005 - V1 - Cm 6640-1.pdf PDF 1,239 × 1,754 (2.67 MB)
Report of the Puerto Rico Experiment Station (IA CAT31294391001).pdf PDF 970 × 1,466 (4.04 MB)
Evaluation of fire models for nuclear fire plant applications- cable tray fires - international panel report (IA evaluationoffire6872deym).pdf PDF 1,272 × 1,620 (16.52 MB)
REPORT OF THE PANEL TO REVIEW THE V-22 PROGRAM (IA gov.gpo.fdsys.CHRG-107shrg75652).pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (13.25 MB)
MEETING REPORT 2.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (13 KB)
Special 301 Report 2007.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (2.65 MB)
Special 301 Report 2001.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (2.13 MB)
Special 301 Report 2002.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (1.72 MB)
Special 301 Report 1994.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (1.06 MB)
Special 301 Report 2000.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (2.36 MB)
Special 301 Report 1999.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (1.7 MB)
Special 301 Report 1997.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (1.3 MB)
Special 301 Report 1998.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (1.75 MB)
Wiki Education Monthly Report, July 2022.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (350 KB)
Wiki Education Monthly Report 2021-11.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (570 KB)
N604GA NTSB accident report.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (123 KB)
Meeting report 2 - Team Esté.pdf PDF 1,239 × 1,752 (112 KB)
Wiki Education Monthly Report, May 2022.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (360 KB)
Wiki Education Monthly Report 2018-11.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (2.54 MB)
Meeting report 3 - Team Esté.pdf PDF 1,239 × 1,752 (113 KB)
Annual Report of the Archaeological Survey of India Vol 19.pdf PDF 893 × 1,358 (26.21 MB)
Project Blue Book report - 1952-10-6383772-PRESSUREISLEAFBMAINE.pdf PDF 3,233 × 4,079 (4.49 MB)
Wiki Education Foundation Monthly Report 2017-05.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (1.43 MB)
Project Blue Book report - 1959-06-8406927-NewGuinea.pdf PDF 2,866 × 3,631 (3.57 MB)Second Report of the Expert Panel on Detection, Evaluation and Treatment of High Blood Cholesterol in Adults (IA secondreportofex00usde).pdf PDF 1,310 × 1,735 (5.56 MB)
WM CZ - Annual report 2016 - print version.pdf PDF 1,327 × 1,839 (11.49 MB)
ADA199891 CRONUS Interim Technical Report No 5 Volume 3.pdf PDF 1,295 × 1,662 (2.78 MB)
Wiki Education Foundation Monthly Report 2016-09.pdf PDF 1,275 × 1,650 (460 KB)
SECOND ANNUAL REPORT 2001 – 2002.pdf PDF 1,239 × 1,754 (157 KB)
WWH activity report 2022.pdf PDF 1,239 × 1,712 (25.3 MB)
Project Blue Book report - 1950-10-9617263-Lark-Utah.pdf PDF 3,816 × 4,768 (953 KB)
Project Blue Book report - 1963-07-8678562-Morehead-Kentucky.pdf PDF 3,508 × 5,114 (1.01 MB)
Project Blue Book report - 1966-03-7093118-Rehoboth-Mass.pdf PDF 4,033 × 5,914 (8.46 MB)
Desktop improvements, Wikimania 2019 research report.pdf PDF 1,500 × 843 (2.61 MB) Mentionmart (talk) 12:27, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't you participate in the discussion I linked, which is discussing a proposed new wording that will allow some unused text files to be hosted here, instead of providing a long list in a deletion request thread? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:55, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Thank you for the suggestion. 108.238.191.152 11:44, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination, https://copyright.lib.harvard.edu/states/tennessee/ notes that Tennessee is not one of the states that makes their government works as public domain. --Abzeronow (talk) 20:03, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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