Commons:Deletion requests/File:Henry Fielding.jpg
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Unsourced picture without publication year, publication title, publisher name and/or author. Deleted by Maxim and restored by Yann. COM:L says that all files needs a source of origin and IMHO this one is deletable, but since I don't have any plans to start a Wheel war on it... Lugusto • ※ 23:49, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Delete the image don't have a source. Far as I kwon every image need a source, so.... Béria Lima Msg 00:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Delete and admonish the restoring admin. As someone who works on Henry Fielding related pages, I saw the original delete and was planning on meeting with Maxim in order to discuss finding the information. This image is from a frontispiece. However, after searching through 18 different books on Fielding, I could not find the frontispiece. It is very hard to find, and there are other images that could replace it. This image, although in the public domain, needs to have proof of the artist, date, etc, before it can be certain of such. I think the restoring admin went about this completely inproperly, and such actions resulted in a problem that should not have happened. Ottava Rima (talk) 22:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Deleting this kind of documents because the source is lost is just utter stupidity, especially when the image is used. The source is important to be sure that the image is PD. In this case, there is no ambiguity about its copyright status: it is PD. The source is an additional useful information, but not essential. The policy stating that an image has to be deleted because it lacks a source, is not well written, but the worst are the admins who apply the policy blindly. A work has to be deleted if there is a potential copyright problem, and the lack of source may concour with that sometimes, but not in this case. Yann (talk) 22:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- Keep The image style clearly dates to the 18th or early 19th century. It is most certainly pd-old and is likely also more than 125 years old (as in created before 1884). --Leoboudv (talk) 05:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Personally my concerns with documents of this age without a provenance is not that we are infringing on someones copyright but that we might be misled, for example how do we know that this is a picture of Fielding and not someone else? If someone with an interest in the topic and has looked through 18 books on the subject cannot find the image maybe its possible that this is not a picture of Fielding. However in this case the University of Adeleide Library has what appears to be a colourised version of the image we have, here, so someone with a thicker skin than me could perhaps ask them about their image.KTo288 (talk) 10:00, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Deleted only per policy. This case is difficult: Per the clear common sense and all we can see we're able to assume this image might be {{PD-old}} but per out policy this is not enough unless there is a clear indication (using a source) the image is {tl|PD-old}}. So if you'd like not to see such images deleted please apply a change of policy ;) abf «Cabale?! Quelle Caballe?» 13:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
