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This is a photo of a 3D object. So the photograph is copyrightable. Therefore PD-old rational is not applicable. ALE! ¿…? 16:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This also applies to Image:Friedel, Ernst2.jpg. --ALE! ¿…? 16:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This scan of a medal is by no means more creative than a scan of say a painting of Rubens. So I don't think that the scanner has any copyright. And the medallist died more than 80 years ago. --Ephraim33 10:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide proof or the last argument (Author died more than 80 years ago)? The other argument do not count as this is clearly against the applicable jurisdiction and court decisions. --ALE! ¿…? 22:03, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Albert Moritz Wolff was born 1854 in Berlin and died 1923 in Lüneburg, as you can see here, here and here or, if you prefer books: Herbert Meinhard Mühlpfordt: Königsberger Skulpturen und ihre Meister : 1255 - 1945. Holzner, Würzburg 1970, p. 198, or Allgemeines Lexikon der bildenden Künstler von der Antike bis zur Gegenwart. vol. 36, Seemann, Leipzig 1947, p. 215. Unfortunately the article in the German wikipedia is still in preparation ([1]). But he already has a Commons category Category:Albert Moritz Wolff. And in Brandenburgia you can see that he is really the medallist of this medal (book search). --Ephraim33 12:09, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Kept. The author is dead for more than 70 years. Yann (talk) 11:16, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As I know, one cannot make "two-dimensional scan" and claim it is faithful reproduction of 3d object (coin). Therefore photography of a coin falls under copyrights of photographer. Masur (talk) 15:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment In other words - now the template claims that this particular file (so photo) is in the PD, because of its age, which is trurly not correct. The coin itself is PD of course, but when one makes an image of it, one gains full credibility for this image, including copyrights. It wouldn't be the case for 2D reproductions od 2D works being in the PD, but the coin is 3D, so its "reproduction" (a photo) is not only "a mechanical reproduction without original input". That was my point. Masur (talk) 12:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Jcb (talk) 15:52, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]