Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Seruyan Regency.png

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File:Flag of Seruyan Regency.png

per in this disscusion The primary issue is that there are no official provincial flags of Indonesia, making these representations fictional or entirely fabricated. The authenticity of these flags is highly questionable, as some originate from websites with copyright notices, while others are falsely labeled as "own work" despite being based on provincial shields. Furthermore, according to Template:PD-IDGov, there is no copyright infringement for the publication, distribution, communication, or reproduction of state emblems and the national anthem in their original form. It is unclear if transforming a state shield into a state flag aligns with this principle, and I would argue it does not, as many of these flags are fake or derivative works that may already be copyrighted. Therefore, these images should be deleted due to being out of scope (OOS) and potential copyright violations (COPYVIO), with the primary concern being their likely infringement of copyright. Baqotun0023 (talk) 02:46, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Hmm... this is interesting. You here seem to be emphasizing the claim that I am committing copyright infringement. To be honest, I made this dossier based on File:Lambang Kabupaten Seruyan.png taken from the regency's official website, and only added a background based on this photo source: [1] [2], This kind of flag was actually adopted in the Regency, but I think the photo is indeed an unreliable primary source. Regardless, I think adding {{Extracted from}} is a wiser choice than deleting. Fazoffic (talk) 04:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@Fazoffic: IMO, instead of {{Extracted from}}, {{Attrib}} seems to fit better. Ckfasdf (talk) 20:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

 Well, I guess that's better. Fazoffic (talk) 20:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

For further information, please see my comments in the related discussion. Fazoffic (talk) 04:29, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

I will quote another user's comment that may explain this,

This is not true, Government Regulation No. 77 of 2007 outlines general guidelines for regional coat of arms and flags, covering provinces, cities, and regencies. According to Article 6.1, regional flags must be square with a 2:3 ratio and feature the coat of arms.
Some provinces have specific regulations regarding their flags, which provide a legal basis for their status. Additionally, under Article 42(b) of Indonesian copyright law, any content derived from regulations cannot be copyrighted, meaning flags governed by specific regulations are in the public domain.
It’s important to note that, unlike regional flags, all regional coat of arms are regulated by specific laws, placing them in the public domain. Since provincial flags are simply the coat of arms placed on a square background, they are considered derivative works of public domain images. As such, anyone arranging the coat of arms on a square background can rightfully claim it as 'own work' and no copyright violation exists.
So the images should be deleted as OOS. As well as potentially COPYVIO. The main reason here being that it's pretty likely they are COPYVIO though.
According to COM:OOS, Files are considered within scope if they are media files in an allowable free format, freely licensed or in the public domain, realistically useful for educational purposes, and do not contain only excluded educational content. The images in this deletion request meet these criteria, as they are media files, freely licensed or public domain as on my comments mentioned above, and serve an educational purpose by representing regional flags per COM:INUSE.

— Ckfasdf (talk · contribs)

Fazoffic (talk) 14:27, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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Kept: per |this discussion. --Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 21:07, 28 October 2024 (UTC)