Commons:Deletion requests/File:EdwardsFigure.png
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
This file was initially tagged by Psychologist Guy as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: Copyrighted material not Chamaemelum's own work taken directly from Edward's paper https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12879450/
Converted to regular DR to allow for discussion, as opinions seem to differ. -- Túrelio (talk) 16:03, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep due to Commons:Threshold of originality § Charts. The image was not "taken directly from Edward's paper." I used the allele frequency data to code a simulation and then used a stylized line to give the "vibes" of the original figure from the early-internet era. Of course, this line, the axes, the axes titles, etc., was all originally generated and nothing was taken from the figure. Fonts, thicknesses, the existence of axes tick marks, etc. all differ between images.
- The two figures overlayed are here: https://imgur.com/a/1EBhZQ0. We can clearly see that the figure nominated here is different.
- The image is "inspired" by the paper, of course, so there may be some attribution required for that. Otherwise, the image is allowed to remain on Wikipedia due to Commons:Threshold of originality § Charts (see policy and examples there, which sometimes even allow graphs/figures to be reused with less modification than this re-made from scratch image). The image should be tagged under PD-chart (View PD-chart category examples here [1].). Chamaemelum (talk) 21:45, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, the image is a copy from the Edward's paper [2] which can be seen here [3]. The only difference is a the size of the numbers, the claim that "nothing was taken from the figure is not true". The claim they re-made the image from scratch is unlikely. Chamaemelum is a banned user who is indef blocked on Wikipedia and has also uploaded a lot of copyrighted material which admins are now reverting. Psychologist Guy (talk) 23:18, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- This is ridiculous [4], anyone can see it is the same chart. It should be noted Chamaemelum has uploaded other images onto Commons as their "own" work some of which have been deleted. Psychologist Guy (talk) 23:34, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- The below will detail that the image was not "directly" copied and that the "only difference is a the size of the numbers" is false.
Attribute | New Graph | Edwards' Graph |
---|---|---|
Range of values on the x-axis | Extends past 20 | Stops at 20 |
Range of values on the y-axis | Stops at ~0.4 | Goes to 0.5 |
Tick marks on Y axis | No tick marks | Tick marks every 0.05 |
Tick marks on X axis | No tick marks | Tick marks every 1, big at 5 & 10 (this makes the tick marks sometimes touch the line, which never happens in the new version.) |
Line color | Pitch black with colorful artifacting on the edges visible if you zoom in | Dark gray (~#231E20), no colorful artifacting |
Graph background color | Not specified | Not specified |
Line style | Has dotted parts | Solid |
Line thickness | Substantially thicker | Thinner |
Difference in axes thickness | Y axis thicker than X | X and Y axes same thickness |
X axis artifacting | None | Artifacts between 3.5 and 4.5 |
Axes title font | Higher resolution, sans serif, smaller letter spacing | Pixelated, serif font, relatively larger letter spacing |
X axis title placement | Centered (around 6) | Left (starting around 3) |
Y axis title placement | Goes to ~0.4 | Goes beyond 0.4 |
Aspect ratio of the plot | Stretched horizontally, larger X to Y ratio | Smaller X to Y ratio |
Image size / file size | 91 KB | 7 KB |
Tip of axes | No inward bend | Axes go "in" towards the plot |
Number font | Different size and font e.g. look at the style of the letter "5" | Different size and font, less modern font |
Number pixelation | Not pixelated | Pixelated |
There is more, such has the lines/box around the entire plot in the new plot vs. only axes lines in Edwards', various other attributes of the line, and more, but in the interest of brevity the above examples more than suffice.
Chamaemelum (talk) 02:05, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
- I've been informed by another user that "copyright-wise," even if it was directly copied from Edwards' paper (it wasn't), it would still be "below the threshold of originality" and therefore could be uploaded and used without modification. Chamaemelum (talk) 03:04, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep This is {{PD-ineligible}} anyway. Yann (talk) 19:47, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion. --Yann (talk) 15:46, 26 October 2023 (UTC)