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User:Srsval book cover uploads

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Not own work, no OTRS, above threshold of originality Buidhe (talk) 17:36, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Buidhe I don't understand why the cover of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows can be included as an image on the Wikipedia page under fair use but these books can't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Deathly_Hallows. Srsval (talk) 09:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Srsval: I think you are confusing Wikipedia and Commons. English Wikipedia does allow fair use under some circumstances, but it's not allowed on commons. Buidhe (talk) 17:36, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki per discussion above. New user should not be expected to sort out the intricacies of policy difference between Wikipedia and Commons. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 19:23, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. @Magnus Manske: created a tool to do just this a few years ago, but I can't find it now. I'll do the transwikiing myself if somebody can point me to the tool. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 19:30, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
so it's ok to insert images directly into Wikipedia pages but not upload to Commons? Thanks for the clarification! Srsval (talk) 19:42, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Srsval: Some of these book covers could be uploaded locally to Wikipedia, but others do not meet en:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria (for example, the images used in en:Elizabeth A. Clark—non free book covers are not generally accepted on the articles of their author). If the book cover just consists of text and simple logos, like this one, it is welcome on commons because it's below the Commons:Threshold of originality. I am happy to answer any questions. Your photographs of notable scholars are much appreciated. Buidhe (talk) 21:18, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
To add / clarify my comment a little: Yes, as Buidhe says, there are circumstances where the proper thing to do is upload to Wikipedia itself, rather than Commons. Buidhe's description of the determining factors is excellent (but as you can probably tell, there are lots of "exceptions to the rule" involved). Files like that are governed by Wikipedia's policies and processes, so it's best to get into the details on a Wikipedia discussion page instead of a Commons page -- but like Buidhe, I'm happy to answer questions here or wherever. What I'm hoping to do is use an automated tool (which I can't find right now) that would transfer the files in an easy step to Wikipedia; if I can do that, you may find that (for reasons like Buidhe describes) some are kept on Wikipedia, while others are nominated for deletion there. Sorry for mistakenly identifying you as a new contributor, I now see you've been at it for a while -- but the rules around copyright and fair use are rather complex, so it's common for even longtime wiki folks to need a bit of guidance. In a nutshell, I'd say: "fair use" is never a valid reason to keep on Commons, and "fair use" is only valid in a pretty narrow set of cases on Wikipedia. Hope this helps. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 21:36, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. — Racconish 💬 14:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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