Commons:Deletion requests/File:Brisbane Ukrainian Solidarity Protest 2023-06-17 - AndrewMercer - DSC07607.jpg
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Derivative work of a copyrighted banner A1Cafel (talk) 06:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Keep I strongly DISAGREE with this deletion request. It's an image of an EVENT in a public place ... see the people, the placard, Ukrainian flags, and the Brisbane town hall in the background. The image has context. This is a truthful depiction of that event and what occurred on that day. It is clearly NOT an attempt to merely reproduce an artwork (and we have no evidence of it being copyrighted). It's an editorial image and part of a newsworthy series showing a protest that took place here in Brisbane. As such, the image should remain.- To delete those two images for this inadequate reason seems to be an attempt at censorship. It's akin to an effort perhaps to delete records of Nazi rallies and atrocities due to their display of swastikas, or a recent attempt to remove video footage from YouTube showing dangerous driving of a company delivery van based on visibility and so-called copyright of it's company logo. Basically, under Australian law, if I can see something in a public place then I can film or photograph it. I can also display and use the image in a fair use / editorial usage context ... which is exactly what this is. This type of image is permitted in any Australian newspaper, magazine or news program on that basis.
- At this point I'm seriously questioning if A1Cafel is attempting extra-territorial censorship that is not warranted in Australian law. Any attempt to enforce questionable copyright of whatever happens to be visible in my image is legally unenforceable. Bald white guy (talk) 10:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Comment What is the original source of the photo of Putin? If it is PD or free licensed, the source needs to be identified, and the image can be kept. If the photo of Putin cannot be shown to be free licensed, this is a COM:DW violation and needs to be deleted. ( I'd argue the red handprint is PD - people have been making red handprints for thousands of years.) -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Delete With some hunting I found the source photo of Putin, and unfortunately it is copyrighted - it is by by noted photographer Platon en:w:Platon (photographer), this was used on the cover of TIME magazine in 2008 [1]. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:33, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Come on! Its a documentary photo showing a historic protest carried out by the Australian Ukrainian community soon after their country was invaded, and the Russian army controlled by Vladimir Putin carried out numerous atrocities such as those at Bucha. It's entirely logical that there will be an image of him ... in this case with the addition of bloody hands to symbolise their contention that he's a murderer. Maybe the photo on the banner came from another source, but the point is that we're photographing the EVENT and the placards are part of that event. The Putin image takes up 5% of the photo! This is a documentary photo of a protest event taking part on the streets of Brisbane (and also Australia-wide at the time). It is NOT a derivative work where we're trying to capitalise on someone else's copyright. You are doing a disservice to the community. Bald white guy (talk) 02:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Copyright laws are stupid like that. There are ways to battle them, like, for instance, help electing an Australian cabinet who’d denounce the GATT Montevideo agreements. But trying to get Wikimedia Commons to expose itself to liability by campaigning for infringement of those copyright laws is however not a good way to battle said laws. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 17:06, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. Fair use rationales don't work on Commons unfortunately. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 15:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
