Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bhutanese Passport-1.ogg

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File:Bhutanese Passport-1.ogg

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Very poor quality and possibly a piss-take Guy 22:41, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Its entirely possible its not intentionally trying to be weird, considering the speaker's native language is Dzongka, and it really does sound like this at times since it is a tonal language. Vowel intonation and length are incredibly important and its difficult for someone that learns non-tonal languages later on in life to completely ignore the urge. Though trying to explain this to most English speakers is sort of like trying to explain color to blind people, most of you simply won't get it.--Aionlux (talk) 05:50, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep Sound file might be humorous, but the guy who reads it is literally the only native bhutanese audio file maker on the english wikipedia, as far as I can tell. Keep!--Shibbolethink (talk) 05:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep I know that it sounds funny to English speakers, but it is not okay to take down this man's work on the basis that you find his accent funny. It is understandable, comprehensive and useful - we should not judge users by their accent. Keep!--LordManley (talk) 13:14, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep There is no license issue on this file, and the decision on Wikipedia EN was to keep it. There is no reason to delete a file just because someone has a funny accent. Khoyobegenn (talk) 16:37, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's also a heavy autotune+reverb effect on his voice, which kind of reenforces the possibility of it being a joke, that's not something someone genuinely reading in their natural accent would do. Having said that, even if it is joke, if it's the only legit audio version of the page, then I guess it makes sense to keep--Manekdsilva (talk) 19:11, 20 March 2015 (UTC).[reply]

  •  Keep I perceive it to be the case, judging by the sources provided by Sannita, that this sound-file not only provides an engaging and comprehensible audio version of the soundfile by a native Bhutanese citizen, but it's also provoked interest in Bhutan by many users of the internet. I therefore ask, doesn't that commend the file more than it condemns it? I do however echo Sannita's petition for a discussion with the original file uploader. He could provide some valuable context and insight on the matter. Kapitulasjon (talk) 09:24, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep It is a legitimate recording made with someone who has an accent. It would be nice if the creator didn't use voice-masking, but it is an understandable reading of the article. Removing the file because "it sounds funny" is childish and a bit racist. —Kanegasi ☺C 00:24, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep It was already marked for deletion and survived the discussion, therefore it has already been "proven" to be legitimate. This file is the best thing we have for this article; and unless someone procures a reasonable replacement, I think it should stay. Hipufiamiumi (talk) 06:29, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Seems like the uploader was having some fun with the audio, in his expressiveness. And some people are linking to this article online and having fun at his expense, but it remains a faithful reproduction of the article as it stood at the time of creation, and I see no reason for deletion. Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 14:53, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete The speaker seems to have pronounced certain words in a comical manner intentionally, even if you take an accent into account. Now that a replacement is available below, this file can be replaced. Yogirox234 (talk) 12:03, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete I can't believe people are sticking up for this. Don't say "oh it's his accent" because it's clearly a joke recording. He's probably reading all this and laughing at how much he's worked us all up. Please delete it, it's an embarrassment to have it on that page. And does such a small article even need a reading? Honestly. TravellerQLD (talk) 12:44, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete Wikipedia, which is an international site and a proven standard platform to gather knowledge must have standard quality articles/files/images etc., in it's articles. This audio file which some may suggest as accent of the particular person is clearly an intention to make fun. Accent doesn't make the same word sound differently the second time! And people who can understand vocal English will probably understand written English. And one won't be in a deliberate state to understand this article just by hearing this funny audio. If an audio is to be included compulsorily in this article(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutanese_passport) then there are many people who can speak good standard English! (If no one else is willing, I will) But please don't include this audio in the above article! And till a decision is taken on the fate of this audio, please don't include the audio... Jaaron95 (talk) 16:37, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep. The file is of poor quality and I have argued against including it in the article on en.wp. Nevertheless, a significant number of editors on en.wp think that it should be included, and this demonstrates that it has educational value. —Mr. Granger (talk  · contribs) 17:22, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep The alternative version does not use the proper tones for Bhutanese words. Thus, the argument for replacing the original recording with the new one on the basis of the former's intonation sounding odd to speakers of Northern American and British varieties of English is self-defeating. - Heilige Krieger (talk) 13:37, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete. No educational value. Unless somebody can tell how that is going to be used for educational purposes, I see no reason to keep it. For now, that has the only purpose of making fun of something.—Teles «Talk to me ˱C L @ S˲» 20:40, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete - No educational value, the file is nowhere near an acceptable quality. It has no place on an encyclopedia whatsoever, and the arguments of pretty much every keep voter on enwp fell into "no other text-to-speech version exists" (obviously wrong), or even weaker rubbish. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 22:05, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete Low quality recording due to echo. This was likely recorded using a low quality headset with the speakers on. This created an echo effect that makes the voice recording inaudible. Dillard421 (talk) 22:41, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep although it's clearly a joke recording, but this is commons not wikipedia, the main purpose is: free content? or not. So if someone upload a funny image or sound file as own work, could we delete this file? of course not--Ibrahim.ID ♒ 03:26, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Not exactly. Being free is not enough. Please, read "Commons:Project scope". Regards.—Teles «Talk to me ˱C L @ S˲» 03:32, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep: Here's an educational purpose: it will educate others on how not to do a Spoken Wikipedia article. Plus we could probably find some place in the humor sections for it. ViperSnake151 (talk) 06:49, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Redo it Could not a native speaker redo this recording and have this moved to humor section (which I was not aware of). Also, this is really not matter of the consensus - the recording is of poor quality, it should not remain. --RockyMM (talk) 11:46, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Strong Keep The way I see it, if this person has made this file as a legitimate contribution and not a joke, then deleting it would be unproductive as this could just be the way he talks, and we could be shooing away one of the few Bhutanese users among us. I don't think the user is trying to vandalise the project as the user page doesn't seem out of the ordinary (even if this is vandalism, it's not too bad as nothing was deleted, only added). Everyone's main problem is with the way the person speaks (which admittedly is somewhat strange), but the content is there, giving it an educational aspect. Hshook (talk) 05:08, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, if it's bringing lots of people here from other sites, a lot of whom wouldn't know anything about the subject presumably, then it is educating them in some way about the topic. So that could be another educational reason to keep it Hshook (talk) 05:13, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Poor quality file, pratically unusable for the encyclopedia scope. Superseded by File:Buthanese Passport.ogg. SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 08:38, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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