Commons:Deletion requests/File:AnoukFerjac-1954-Harcourt.png
Even if we accept that Studio Harcourt photos are collective works in France, those are still protected for 70 years from publication there. This one is (said to be) from 1954, so (if that is correct) clearly it cannot be in the public domain in France before 2025 2026. Also, since it was still protected by French copyright on the URAA date for France (1996-01-01), the URAA restored its US copyright (which runs until the end of 2049 2050).
There were claims in another deletion request that all Harcourt photos were released under a Creative Commons license, but I haven't seen any evidence for that. User:Studio Harcourt, in June 2010, uploaded a bunch of Harcourt photos from the 1990s and 2000s under a CC license, but that is all I have seen.
So the file should be deleted. It can be restored in 2050 2051 when its US copyright will have expired. Rosenzweig τ 22:55, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- The source site says "Droits d'auteur: Droits : Etat" and "Photo (C) Ministère de la Culture - Médiathèque du patrimoine et de la photographie, Dist. RMN-Grand Palais / Studio Harcourt" btw. Also, where does that 1954-01-01 date come from? The source site doesn't date the photo. Anouk Ferjac was born in 1932, so 1954 could be correct, or the photo could have been taken later than that. It's hard to say if she is 22 or 29 in that photo. --Rosenzweig τ 23:13, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Per [1], the photo is from 1955. That moves all expiration dates by one year. --Rosenzweig τ 23:32, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hello,
- This case of collective work (Studio Harcourt) is a mistake because the actual date is 1955 and not 1954. Please consider that I agree this deletion.
- Regards. Tisourcier (talk) 11:36, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- About the Studio Harcourt evidence :
- Studio Harcourt photos have been judged to be collective works [2]
- This judgement makes a "juris prudence" in France and any Collective work (for instance another photograph agency) is covered by the same status : 70 years after the picture has been taken (not necessarily published), the picture is under PD-France.
- Regards. Tisourcier (talk) 11:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- You're wrong about the "has been taken (not necessarily published)" issue, this is clearly from publication. The {{PD-France}} tag says so, and art. L123-3 of the CPI says so as well. --Rosenzweig τ 11:45, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Also, even if this were a collective work published in 1954, it would still be protected by copyright in France until the end of 2024; it would enter the public domain on January 1, 2025. As of right now, even collective works published in 1953 are still protected by copyright in France for 16 more days (including today); those will enter the public domain in France on January 1, 2024. --Rosenzweig τ 11:51, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Delete I agree myself on the deletion, because the picture (Studio Harcourt = collective work) is more thant 70 years ago.
- Tisourcier (talk) 14:55, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. Uploader agrees. --Yann (talk) 15:43, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
