Commons:Deletion requests/File:A B Alexandrov.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
No indication of early enough PUBLICATION to be public domain PlanespotterA320 (talk) 16:39, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
@PlanespotterA320: I oppose the deletion. The style of the dress uniform in the image attests to the fact that the photo was taken during World War II. He died in 1946. I doubt that he was disinterred later just for the photo shoot.— Ineuw talk 20:04, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- That's not enough. The exact publication it was in before the cut-off date must be presented. Also, it is very likely it wasn't immediatly published - Soviet photographers would often take multiple photos of a person in a shoot and the one best photo would be put in the central publications. As we still have no proof this specific photo was published by the cutoff date, we have no proof is it PD, and the burden of proof is on the uploader to show that is it PD.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 20:50, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
- I have a friend in Moscow who has family connections with the Ensemble. He knows a researcher who should be able to track down the original publication date, and whether the author was named or anonymous. Please give me some time to contact him and get a reply. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 14:17, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Update: I have corrected the file according to research information received. I hope this is now satisfactory. Storye book (talk) 12:12, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- The information you provided means that the photo is PD in Russia but not the US. It can use the PD-Russia template. There is some dispute on Commons as to wether stuff not PD in the US but PD in the source country should be deleted, so we can leave that for an admin to decide.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- If it gets deleted, it can be undeleted in 2042 per the 95 years after publication rule.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- The information you provided means that the photo is PD in Russia but not the US. It can use the PD-Russia template. There is some dispute on Commons as to wether stuff not PD in the US but PD in the source country should be deleted, so we can leave that for an admin to decide.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Update: I have corrected the file according to research information received. I hope this is now satisfactory. Storye book (talk) 12:12, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I have a friend in Moscow who has family connections with the Ensemble. He knows a researcher who should be able to track down the original publication date, and whether the author was named or anonymous. Please give me some time to contact him and get a reply. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 14:17, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Keep I added {{Not-PD-US-URAA}}, which says that it possibly copyrighted in the US and if you happen to be the copyright holder you can request the deletion. I think it is sufficient. Copyright rules in the US are so bizarre it is close to impossible to figure out why various objects which are PD in the source country would be PD in the US. So we usually ignore lack of clear reason that something is PD in the US as long as it is PD in the country of origin. --Jarekt (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- It's not weird at all. We were just given information that the item is PD in Russia, but NOT the US. The question is, wether that is acceptable.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Kept: per discussion. --Ìch heiss Nat. Redd mìt mìr.🥨 19:05, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
