Commons:Deletion requests/Copyrighted images from the National Churches Trust Flickr account

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Copyrighted images from the National Churches Trust Flickr account

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There was a discussion back in 2020 (VP) (Deletion request) about CC-BY Flickr uploads from the National Churches Trust, which turned out to include several Crown Copyright images and others under copyright from other creators. I have not done an exhaustive search but there are probably others with issues given the prevalence of images uploaded with copyright labels. Note: two of these were flagged the first time round and not deleted; I can’t figure out whether this is because they were OK or whether they were overlooked.

I think this Flickr account should also be flagged as a problematic source. Dogfennydd (talk) 19:34, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep these two, which came from Geograph Britain and Ireland. I've corrected their licences.
--bjh21 (talk) 21:01, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, thanks for the research. Dogfennydd (talk) 21:06, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete File:St Michael and All Angels, Upper Sapey, WR6 6XR (copyright TudorBarlow (Flickr)) (1) (18270422544).jpg, which came from https://www.flickr.com/photos/tudorbarlow/9688422168 and is non-free. --bjh21 (talk) 21:13, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete the Crown Copyright images, but
 Keep the other images. 'Copyright' or '(c)' in the file name or EXIF or decription does not indicate a copyright violation and is compatible with a Creative Commons license. The issue here is whether the National Churches Trust should be trusted to have obtained the consent of the copyright holder to the license. The NCT is a highly reputable organisation and we should trust their licenses unless there is a clear reason not to, in the same way that we would trust licenses applied by a major museum or a university library. User:Fæ commented in the Village Pump discussion "Where the named photographer seems to have agreed the CC license, presumably because they were supporting/work for the NCT, this seems a reasonable rationale to accept the license as verified, regardless of what may persist in the EXIF data."[1] Verbcatcher (talk) 22:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete all except the struck-through photos from Geograph. I don't think the NCT has taken much care over the licensing of its uploads to Flickr. If it's licensed Crown Copyright photos as CC-BY it seems unlikely that it's got the licensing right for its other photos – at least, its other photos of churches; its photos of people are another matter because they usually seem to have been taken at NCT events or are publicity photos of its most notable members. I've created Category:Files from The National Churches Trust Flickr stream to get a sense of the situation; so far it's got 400 images. This (Flickr version) and this (Flickr version) are CC-BY-SA photos it's republished as CC-BY. "FROM WEB" in this filename (Flickr version) doesn't inspire much confidence. I'm inclined to agree that the account should be flagged as a problematic source, except for photos taken at NCT events and perhaps for its photos of people associated with the organisation. Ham II (talk) 08:37, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: most, per nomination and Ham II, kept only the two from Geograph UK. --Rosenzweig τ 10:43, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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