Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Oral Parts of Matura
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At first, these photos of non-notable, identifiable persons where obviously taken in a private setting with a limited purpose (you know, these school photographs …). Our personality rights warning is no carte blanche for uploading images of all kind! Second: There is a conflict with COM:SCOPE, see images like Image:Matura - before oral exam 6.jpg, Image:Matura - during oral exam 16.jpg, Image:Matura - before oral exam 3.jpg, Image:Matura - next please.jpg. The quality is also not the best. --Polarlys 11:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Keep The photos were taken in the public place (the school) on a formal state exam (Matura). The teachers were taken during doing theirs duties, the students were taken during the formal state exam in a public place. So it is obviously the situation when we can apply the law about free panorama. And there in Chech Republic is the free panorama law...- If you have sth better you can replaced their... Could you show me more precisely the point of our rigths that say sth about the limits, please? Regards Electron 11:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- en:Personality rights, de:Recht am eigenen Bild, fr:Droit à l'image. Choose your favorite language to get a general idea. Regards, --Polarlys 11:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. OK, I read this but it is a very unclear and a very discutable subject and there is many points of view. There is also nothing about that what the Czech law says about it (because that photos were taken in Czech)... Regards Electron 11:28, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- en:Personality rights, de:Recht am eigenen Bild, fr:Droit à l'image. Choose your favorite language to get a general idea. Regards, --Polarlys 11:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know that either, but the absence of this paragraph in the correspondending article says not much, most countries have regulations for that and last but not least there is also an european level. --Polarlys 11:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- These are only doubts and speculation... All laws require a precision and there are no room for speculation. If you don't sure don't judge. There is no guilt if the is no a precission evidence. Regards Electron 11:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know that either, but the absence of this paragraph in the correspondending article says not much, most countries have regulations for that and last but not least there is also an european level. --Polarlys 11:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- If you think it's okay under Czech law to publish photos of non-notable persons (even in unpleasant situations) without their consent, please provide evidence for that. Commons doesn't work the way that people upload photos which have strong usage restrictions in a lot of countries and then other users have to guess if it's okay in other jurisdictions too. BTW: Discussing doubtable uploads has nothing to do with playing judge. --Polarlys 12:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Very comfotable point of seating. You should do this, you should do that... and I will be play the role of the God. I have no doubts - only you have got. The question is who should move his but... and explain the matter? Regards Electron 12:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- If you think it's okay under Czech law to publish photos of non-notable persons (even in unpleasant situations) without their consent, please provide evidence for that. Commons doesn't work the way that people upload photos which have strong usage restrictions in a lot of countries and then other users have to guess if it's okay in other jurisdictions too. BTW: Discussing doubtable uploads has nothing to do with playing judge. --Polarlys 12:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- For me it's a good starting point to wait for other users responses. --Polarlys 12:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC) PS: Your recent addition has absolutely nothing to do with freedom of panorama: This request is about individuals, not pieces of art or buildings. Being in public service doesn't take away your privacy.
- Everybody can change partly his opinion and improve clearity of his previous expression... Regards Electron 14:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- There are much more photos with that matura on Flickr (about 700 pieses or more). The teachers and students are aware that they are photographed obviosly. I havent seen any objection of the objects beeing taken of this photos. Electron 14:46, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- There is no problem adding further comments, but you should highlight this for transparency :-) Being photographed isn't a silent permission (see en:Model release) for putting images on the web and the resulting possibility to see your face in a Wikipedia article on exams. Most likely the photographed persons are not aware that these images are on the web, are open to the public and can be used in a different context. --Polarlys 16:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- And because of that fact we have a very useful template that is called {personality rights}}... E.g.: If you decided to go outside your home you take a risk to be seen and to be opinioned by others. No matter what you do or don't do. How do you look like or how do you don't look like. Yes it is very hard but true... Life is so brutal ;) Regards Electron 14:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- There is no problem adding further comments, but you should highlight this for transparency :-) Being photographed isn't a silent permission (see en:Model release) for putting images on the web and the resulting possibility to see your face in a Wikipedia article on exams. Most likely the photographed persons are not aware that these images are on the web, are open to the public and can be used in a different context. --Polarlys 16:56, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- For me it's a good starting point to wait for other users responses. --Polarlys 12:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC) PS: Your recent addition has absolutely nothing to do with freedom of panorama: This request is about individuals, not pieces of art or buildings. Being in public service doesn't take away your privacy.
<remove indent> I agree with Polarlys - some of these images are out of scope, and/or near duplicates (see no. 3, no. 4 and no. 9 for instance), some could be useful as illustration of "school exams". However in all cases we need to be sure that the people in the images know that they are being used as "example students/teachers doing exams".
If I found someone had uploaded an image of me without my permission/knowing about it, I would want it deleted immediately. It is up to me only to decide where I publish my own image, no matter what the law in my particular country says. -- Deadstar (msg) 08:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Delete per Commons:Photographs of identifiable people. The teachers and students have I think a reasonable expectation of privacy in an examination. --MichaelMaggs 17:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Comment If they wanted their privacy they hadn't accepted taking photograps at this time... It is not a one photo which was taken. There were handreds of them there on Flickr. Nobody convince me that the teatchers and students weren't aware that somebody is taking the photos... And I think that the examining board had a power to stop the activity if they didn't want it. Talking about their law to privacy has no sense if they don't want it... Regards Electron (talk) 06:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Delete Per above. Mww113 (talk) 16:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Comment We shouldn't judge all category. There are meny photos. They are not the same. For egzample there on some of them people are taken at the back and without a clear view of faces. So we should consider each photo separately... Electron (talk) 06:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)