Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Graffiti in Piazzale Pino Pascali

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  • Add {{delete|reason=Fill in reason for deletion here!|subpage=Category:Graffiti in Piazzale Pino Pascali|year=2024|month=October|day=30}} to the description page of each file.
  • Notify the uploader(s) with {{subst:idw||Category:Graffiti in Piazzale Pino Pascali|plural}} ~~~~
  • Add {{Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Graffiti in Piazzale Pino Pascali}} at the end of today's log.

Files in Category:Graffiti in Piazzale Pino Pascali

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All photographs included in the Category:Graffiti in Piazzale Pino Pascali:

All the graffiti in this category "are not illegal", as created in a public space granted by the Administration of the City of Rome specifically for this purpose. However there is no freedom of panorama in Italy and some graffiti are derivative works. OTRS-permissions from each authors are needed. --Y.haruo (talk) 09:23, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, if an institution ensures an exhibition space for any project, it is understood that there is also the freedom of panorama. As for the permissions of the authors, I noticed that most of the photos of graffiti on Commons do not have these permissions, so they should be deleted all? --Nicholas Gemini (talk) 00:06, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately other graffiti in Italy also will be deleted. see Category:Italian FOP cases/pending, Category:Italian FOP cases/deleted.--Y.haruo (talk) 06:33, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep I also agree to keep them. But I do not agree with adding the template {{Non-free graffiti}}, for a simple reason: as I noted above, the graffiti referenced herein are drawn in a space made available by the Administration of the City of Rome, so they are perfectly legal, while the template {{Non-free graffiti}} declares that the mural "not legal", would be a contradiction... This template can be good for all other graffiti, but not for those of Category:Piazzale Pino Pascali, whose files are listed on this page. --Nicholas Gemini (talk) 11:14, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I point out that some graffiti are derivative works already.
File:Graffiti Roma 15.JPG
File:Graffiti Rome 04.JPG
File:Graffiti in Piazzale Pino Pascali 18.JPG
File:Graffiti in Piazzale Pino Pascali 185.JPG
File:Graffiti in Piazzale Pino Pascali 229.JPG
File:Graffiti in Piazzale Pino Pascali 44.JPG
File:Graffiti in Rome 146.JPG
File:Graffiti in Rome 201.JPG
File:Graffiti in Rome 209.JPG
File:Italian Graffiti 18.JPG
These does not get the permissions of the original copyright holders. There will be still the thing which I do not notice. Why you thought to keep all graffiti?--Y.haruo (talk) 18:15, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Italy has no Freedom of Panorama. {{Non-free graffiti}} is predicated on the illegality of the graffiti, and as such cannot apply if the graffito is in a space specifically designated by the city for graffiti. The argument that because the city designated a space for graffiti, FOP should be understood does not make sense to me... cities make space for statues all the time in countries with no FOP: that doesn't mean the statues lose copyright protection. --Storkk (talk) 13:52, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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